Seems like the PR is getting to "green" zone - so one last push - and I am
changing it to "devel-common" unless I hear strong NOOOOOOO!

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 10:36 PM Vincent Beck <vincb...@apache.org> wrote:

> devel-common makes sense to me
>
> On 2025/03/04 21:13:47 "Oliveira, Niko" wrote:
> > +1 to devel-common from me
> >
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> > devel-common sounds reasonable
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> >  - ferruzzi
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> > I am doing a bit more cleanup, and I have found that the easier way to
> fix some of the remaining issues will be to clean-up (and remove) the
> remaining editable devel dependencies and incorporate them all in the
> "tests-common" package.
> >
> > You can take a look at the PR:
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/47281 - but basically what it
> means is:
> >
> > * all "devel" dependencies are added as required dependencies of
> "tests-common" (except "doc" - I will treat doc separately).
> > * I removed all "legacy" extras from the "airflow" package including
> "bundle" extras: "devel-ci", "devel-db" and a few others - except
> installing "all" dependencies as they were pretty useless. Except
> "editable" all only - see below - we will have no more devel and bundle
> extras  (Ash - I guess this is what you were looking forward to :) )
> > * Instead we have one "all" extra that is available only in editable
> mode - it's not documented in user documentation and it is really only
> useful to install everything with `pip` (with uv you get the same with `uv
> sync --all-extras`)  - this is still used internally in the CI image to run
> `uv pip install .[all] --constraints` until we switch to use "uv.lock" in
> the future
> > * hatch_build.py is significantly simpler and easier to understand now -
> with all the bundle removal and moving all dependencies to ./tests-common
> > * we still need dynamic dependencies and ./hatch_build.py - but less and
> less, with PEP735 (https://peps.python.org/pep-0735/) implemented in pip
> in April we will likely be able to turn our optional dependencies into
> static pyproject.toml deps, and with https://peps.python.org/pep-0771/
> (needs approval and implementation) we will likely be able to have static
> pyproject.toml required dependencies as well.
> > * I updated install and contributing docs to be "uv first" - presenting
> as recommended and the first option to go with `uv`  - as it is becoming
> deceptively simple now to work with both - airflow and providers (and it
> will be even simpler after few next PRs)
> >
> > Now. THE BIG QUESTION - naming again.  With all those changes.....
> `tests-common` is becoming more of a `devel-common` package - because what
> it will do - it will contribute to all other sub-projects all the
> development tooling that is needed for those other projects to be developed.
> >
> > Shall we name it "devel-common" instead of `tests-common`?
> >
> > Part of why I think it makes sense is this specification in
> `tests-common/pyproject.toml` (see attachment) - also
> https://ibb.co/1cwZQRm if you do not see attachment. Note that these are
> generally "common" devel dependencies - and each of the packages can
> contribute their own (including task-sdk, airflow-core (future), every
> provider etc.)
> >
> > [Screenshot from 2025-03-04 19-50-32.png]
> >
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 4:14 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com<mailto:
> ja...@potiuk.com>> wrote:
> > Hello everyone.
> >
> > I created the PR for that https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/47281.
> >
> > It's even nicer than I anticipated. I love the new super-simple
> workflows this restructuring finally enabled.
> >
> > With `uv` and workspace, and the new structure of tests, developing and
> running  tests for providers, task-sdk or any of the other future
> sub-projects becomes very, very straightforward, we avoid duplication of
> pytest options and switching between airflow, task-sdk, providers tests
> will be simple and straightforward.
> >
> > 1) First of all with this change, we remove `devel-tests` extra. It was
> always needed in local venv to install all test dependencies, But this is
> completely gone right now. Test dependencies are automatically installed
> now when you run `uv sync`  - and you do not need to specify `--extra
> devel-tests`. If you are still using `pip` (I strongly recommend switching
> to uv) - you just install `pip install -e ./tests-common`.
> >
> > 2) the previous way of syncing and running tests in "everything
> installed" mode works as it worked before:
> >
> > uv sync --all-extras
> >
> > This installs all possible extras of airflow, allows you to run tests
> for all providers, activate the venv in `.venv` and run `pytests
> tests/always` or `pytest providers/mongo/tests`  or `pytest task_sdk/tests
> and it should all work fine as it did before
> >
> > 3) you can also install dependencies of a selected provider (or a few of
> those) in your .venv
> >
> > uv sync --extra mongo
> >
> > 3) All the `breeze testing provider-tests --test-type
> "Providers[mongo]"" and generally all the ways to replicate what we run in
> CI inside breeze containers with selective checks will also continue to
> work - no changes here.
> >
> > But then, a little bit of standardization, a bit of pre-commits that
> automatically update `pyproject.toml` files of ours with cross-provider
> dependencies and  a little of `uv` workspace magic sprinkled over the repo
> of ours and now we can do something much more straightforward:
> >
> > You can change directory to task_sdk, or provider folder of your choice
> and simply run:
> >
> > cd providers/mongo
> > uv run pytest
> >
> > or
> >
> > cd task_sdk
> > uv run pytest
> >
> > And it will do what you would expect to do - even if this is the first
> thing you do after checking out Airflow's repo without any earlier syncing
> or preparation. Yes. It's that simple.
> >
> > The `uv run pytest` command will now automatically: install python,
> create a venv, sync your venv to ONLY have dependencies needed for your
> provider or any of the providers imported by your provider, and all test
> dependencies needed, it will find only non-system, non-integration tests
> and run them. That's it. If you want to only develop one provider - you
> will not have to worry any more about breeze image or setting up all other
> dependencies.
> >
> > Go ahead and try it. It's unbelievably simple.
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 5:45 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org
> <mailto:a...@apache.org>> wrote:
> > I like this approach, lets do it!
> >
> > > On 25 Feb 2025, at 16:02, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com<mailto:
> ja...@potiuk.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > airflow-core
> > > task-sdk
> > > tests-common
> >
> >
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