Hey,

I agree with the direction of the PR. Given that is_paused serves several
critical functions, overloading it to include draining behavior would
likely cause unintended side effects across the system. By keeping
"draining" as a distinct, transient state, we can avoid those complications
while effectively solving the need for graceful task completion. This will
also significant improvement for managing Dags during upgrades.


On Wed, 9 Sep 2026 at 20:15, Elad Kalif <[email protected]> wrote:

> > The drain here is a transient which eventually converges to pause.
>
> I agree. drain is intermediate state. When draining is completed the status
> should be changed to paused.
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2026 at 1:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The drain here is a transient which eventually converges to pause.
> >
> > Yep. That was my thinking. You summarized it all in one sentence :)
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2026 at 7:03 AM Dheeraj Turaga <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Amogh,
> > >
> > > On Jarek's thought, I agree with him that just changing the pause
> > behavior
> > > is probably not a good idea.
> > > I can see instances where a user may want to instantly pause a dag in
> one
> > > case
> > > but want to drain a dag in another case. I myself have such a need for
> > > different dags.
> > >
> > > For example, during airflow upgrades, I would like to gracefully drain
> my
> > > whole instance before upgrade.
> > > While during regular operation, I may want to prevent my dag from
> > launching
> > > further tasks.
> > >
> > > The drain here is a transient which eventually converges to pause.
> > >
> > > Draining keeps task scheduling enabled, and only automated dagrun
> > creation
> > > paths are gated.
> > > *is_paused* is set to true only when the dagrun are completed. Manual
> > > triggers are still allowed
> > > simialr to the behavior when *is_paused* set to false.
> > >
> > > It would be great to get your thoughts on the PR once you get a chance
> to
> > > play with it.
> > >
> > > Dheeraj
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 11:19 PM Amogh Desai <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yep, *is_paused* does more than block new runs. The scheduler checks
> it
> > > > directly when deciding which
> > > > tasks to run next. That is what freezes downstream tasks today, and
> it
> > is
> > > > also why I would push back on
> > > > "same is_paused but two buttons."
> > > >
> > > > If you are suggesting that "Pause and drain" sets *is_paused=True*
> > right
> > > > away, those two checks still need a way
> > > > to know "this one is a soft pause, let it keep going." That means
> > adding
> > > a
> > > > second flag anyway, just hidden behind
> > > > the same name. And *is_paused* shows up in other places like backfill
> > > pause
> > > > logic and asset triggered runs. Each of
> > > > those would need checking to make sure a "soft paused" Dag still acts
> > > like
> > > > an active one everywhere except the one
> > > > spot it should not. From the PR, it avoids all that by keeping
> > > > *is_paused=False* during drain, so every existing check
> > > > keeps working as it should. It only adds new checks in a few places
> > that
> > > > decide whether to start a new run.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > > Amogh Desai
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 4:29 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I like the idea Amogh. I think **just changing** pause behaviour
> > might
> > > > not
> > > > > be good idea for compatibility (someone might rely on it's current
> > > > > behaviour).
> > > > >
> > > > > But maybe we could have different behaviour of two
> > > > > different buttons/behaviour: "Pause" (current behaviour - stop
> > current
> > > > > tasks and it's downstream), "Pause and drain" - set the Dag to
> > "paused"
> > > > but
> > > > > let the running dag_runs to continue until completion.
> > > > >
> > > > > It might however require some scheduler changes - I think currently
> > > > > is_paused is used to select run-eligible tasks ?
> > > > >
> > > > > J.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 7:41 AM Amogh Desai <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for picking a 4-year-old issue.
> > > > > > The ask itself makes sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One design question that might eventually come up in this thread
> /
> > PR
> > > > is:
> > > > > > why do we need a new persisted state
> > > > > > instead of just changing what is_paused does? i.e: keep gating
> new
> > > run
> > > > > > creation on is_paused, but stop freezing
> > > > > > downstream tasks in created runs. That would get you graceful
> > > draining
> > > > > > without a schema change or migration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From my reading, doing that would silently change the semantics
> of
> > > > > > *is_paused*. Today, freezes downstream tasks in-flight.
> > > > > > Some operators pause specifically to stop a run's progress, not
> > just
> > > to
> > > > > > block new ones. Folding drain behavior into *is_paused*
> > > > > > might change that for everyone already relying on the current
> > freeze
> > > +
> > > > > > pause behavior, with no option to opt out, yes?
> > > > > > Worth clarifying.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > > > > Amogh Desai
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2026 at 3:15 AM Dheeraj Turaga <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wanted to start this discussion to get feedback on PR #72407,
> > > which
> > > > > > > proposes adding a "draining" scheduling state to Airflow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Problem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently, pausing a DAG stops it mid-flight. While running
> tasks
> > > are
> > > > > > > allowed to finish, queued and downstream tasks remain stranded
> > > until
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > DAG is unpaused. There is currently no native way to stop
> > starting
> > > > new
> > > > > > runs
> > > > > > > while allowing those already in flight to complete.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is a significant pain point during upgrades and
> maintenance.
> > > The
> > > > > > > current workaround as described in the four-year-old Issue
> #22006
> > > > > > requires
> > > > > > > users to manually rewrite every DAG schedule to None, wait for
> > runs
> > > > to
> > > > > > > drain, and then restore the schedules afterward. This process
> is
> > > > > invasive
> > > > > > > and prone to error.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Proposed Solution: The draining State
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The PR introduces a draining state that sits between active and
> > > > paused.
> > > > > > Key
> > > > > > > behaviors include:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   - No New Scheduled Runs: The scheduler creates no new runs
> for
> > a
> > > > > > draining
> > > > > > > DAG (including scheduled, asset-triggered, and
> partitioned/rollup
> > > > > paths).
> > > > > > >   - Completion of In-Flight Runs: is_paused remains false
> during
> > > the
> > > > > > drain,
> > > > > > > meaning task instances in existing runs are still scheduled and
> > > > finish
> > > > > > > normally.
> > > > > > >   - Automatic Convergence: Once no unfinished runs remain, the
> > > > > scheduler
> > > > > > > automatically moves the DAG to the paused state and writes a
> > > > > > > drain_completed audit log entry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The core property of this feature is that draining is
> transient,
> > > not
> > > > a
> > > > > > > third resting state; it always converges to paused.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Implementation Details
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Explicit run creation via manual triggers,
> TriggerDagRunOperator,
> > > > asset
> > > > > > > materialization, or backfills remains allowed during draining,
> > > > > mirroring
> > > > > > > the behavior of a paused DAG. An earlier revision that blocked
> > > these
> > > > > > > actions was reverted to ensure draining is not stricter than
> the
> > > > state
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > converges into.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Links:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   - PR: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/72407
> > > > > > >   - Issue: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/22006
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Dheeraj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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