Well, my first experience is not good 
https://github.com/ashb/airflow/actions/runs/42013825789 just says “Startup 
Failure”. There is unfortunately no indication on the PR itself that this has 
failed — no link, no status etc.

(These are just teething problems for sure, so not letting this sway my voting 
too much.)

> On 5 Nov 2026, at 10:51, Ash Berlin-Taylor via dev <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, testing it here https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/76536
> 
> The main thing I want to see around is the experience of “fork CI is green, 
> now what do we have to do to merge it”. 
> 
>> On 5 Nov 2026, at 04:17, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>> What Shahar wrote - that was also from the beginning part of the AIP-120
>> proposal - having labels, way to test it  - and we already tried it over
>> last 2 weeks, made a number of improvements, have a few edge cases to
>> handle (all described in the VOTE email) and thread open in #contributors
>> where we discussed all that. The email in the devlist above is just a
>> summary of it.
>> 
>> So - absolutely, Ash - add "use fork ci" on your PRs and you will get the
>> experience. Even more - you can actually, review, rebase, re-run, review,
>> and approve any of the PRs from the people listed in
>> https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/main/.github/fork-ci-gate.toml - who
>> offered to test it during the pilot. Report issues or raise concerns if you
>> want, and we (and even some of the contributors who volunteered to pilot
>> it) are addressing any issues and ironing the wrinkles within hours. We
>> have a whole team of people who are able to help address any of your
>> concerns there (and they did so over the last 2 weeks).
>> 
>> J.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2026 at 12:40 PM Shahar Epstein via dev <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ash - to test it out, simply label your own PR with "use fork ci" and
>>> trigger the workflow (push any change).
>>> The participants of the pilot get this auto-labeled, but maintianers could
>>> apply it manually as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/0ae09c32182e2fd0f4f50b1ce423dd1b42f77343/contributing-docs/18_contribution_workflow.rst#ci-in-your-fork
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> +1 (binding) from me, this is really needed at this point of time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shahar
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2026 at 2:52 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor via dev <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Before I vote on this, is there a way I can test out the proposed
>>>> model/changes so I can see what the flow looks like, both from a
>>> maintainer
>>>> and a contributor?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4 Nov 2026, at 11:06, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am calling a vote on AIP-120, "Your PR, your CI" [1]. As I said when
>>>>> I withdrew the earlier [RESULT] and reopened the discussion [2], this
>>>>> goes to a vote rather than [LAZY CONSENSUS], because not everyone who
>>>>> objected has withdrawn their objection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> AIP-120 will change to ADIP-12 if the separate [LAZY CONSENSUS] on the
>>>>> new ADIP wiki section passes [3]. That only changes where the page
>>>>> lives and what it is called. This vote does not depend on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What we are voting on
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whether to switch on CI in contributors' forks for all external
>>>>> contributors, as described in AIP-120 [1] and the design [4]:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * PRs from external contributors run CI in the contributor's own fork,
>>>>> on GitHub's free runners, instead of on the ASF runners. Committers,
>>>>> collaborators and exempted organisations keep project CI, unchanged.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * A contributor enables one workflow in their fork, once. After that a
>>>>> plain "git push" runs CI. No PR against their own fork is needed, and
>>>>> "breeze ci audit" checks the setup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * The PR shows the fork run as a commit status linking to the run. A PR
>>>>> is drafted when the fork needs setup or the run failed, and undrafted
>>>>> when the run is green. A run in progress does not draft it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * A green fork run is not enough when the PR changes what decides which
>>>>> jobs run and on which runners (workflows, breeze sources and similar).
>>>>> Such PRs stay visible for review, but wait for a maintainer to run
>>>>> project CI with the "use project ci" label. Maintainers can use that
>>>>> label on any PR they want verified in project CI before merging.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * A gated PR with no fork CI activity for 7 days is closed, and can be
>>>>> reopened.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not part of this vote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * The one-time reset of the open PR backlog. It is not proposed here.
>>>>> * Which organisations are exempted. That is agreed separately on this
>>>>> list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where things stand
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> The implementation is merged and switched off for everyone except the
>>>>> pilot: "enabled = false" in .github/fork-ci-gate.toml. If the vote
>>>>> passes, I will post a final pilot update on this list and then switch
>>>>> it on in a separate PR. Rollback is setting "enabled = false" again. If
>>>>> the vote does not pass, it is not switched on for all external
>>>>> contributors.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What the pilot showed
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seven external contributors joined the opt-in pilot on 2026-10-31. So
>>>>> far 16 new PRs carry the "fork ci required" label, 9 of them merged,
>>>>> plus some older PRs that were rebased. Feedback is in the
>>>>> #internal-airflow-ci-cd Slack channel. Some quotes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "So far, this has been far less inconvenient that I expected. The
>>>>> only downside is that the CI workflow takes a bit longer on my own
>>>>> fork that when using the projects runners." - Sameer Mesiah
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Total run time was ~30 minutes, which is basically on par with how
>>>>> long it was taking on the shared Apache CI (for this PR
>>>>> specifically)." - Justin Pakzad
>>>>> 
>>>>> "I was actually quite surprised that the runtimes were pretty close
>>>>> (in some cases quicker) on my fork. I only tested a provider/task-sdk
>>>>> PRs, I'm assuming larger core changes will def take longer." - Justin
>>>>> Pakzad
>>>>> 
>>>>> "I love it that I can finally rerun failed jobs since they're running
>>>>> on the fork" - Iliya Romm
>>>>> 
>>>>> That last one was a benefit we did not plan: contributors can restart
>>>>> a single failed job themselves, without asking a maintainer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was not all smooth, and that is what the pilot was for:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "this had a green (main) CI run, with two maintainer approvals, then
>>>>> I rebased and the fork CI failed, which auto-marked the PR as draft.
>>>>> [...] I think the auto-draft rules should be more careful." - Iliya
>>>>> Romm
>>>>> 
>>>>> "My PR only changes documentation [...] but fork CI converted it to
>>>>> draft automatically." - Aaron Chen
>>>>> 
>>>>> "GitHub just disabled it without any notification, so my workflows on
>>>>> fork silently stopped" - Andrew Chang
>>>>> 
>>>>> Improvements made after the pilot started
>>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Rebased pilot PRs are now gated, not only new ones, and a required
>>>>> "CI run started" check shows from the moment of the push (#76148).
>>>>> * Cancelled project CI runs no longer leave a mixed red/green status
>>>>> on the PR (#76148).
>>>>> * A run in progress no longer drafts a PR, so rebasing an approved PR
>>>>> does not draft it unless the new run fails (#76151).
>>>>> * One pending status links to the fork run, replacing a wall of pending
>>>>> jobs. This also spends fewer GitHub API writes, and we now watch the
>>>>> rate limits (#76154).
>>>>> * Scheduled workflows are skipped in forks. They were the likely reason
>>>>> GitHub disabled Actions on some forks (#76243).
>>>>> * "breeze ci audit" checks that the fork's GitHub Actions can actually
>>>>> run (#76136, by Andrew).
>>>>> * Only changes that can steer CI are held for a maintainer, and they
>>>>> are no longer drafted, so docs under dev/breeze/ pass normally
>>>>> (#76282).
>>>>> * Fork CI PRs that change CI files no longer get the misleading "need
>>>>> workflow approval" label (#76289, by Andrew).
>>>>> * A re-run that passes now replaces the failed job statuses on the PR
>>>>> (#76327).
>>>>> * Fork image names are lowercased in the PROD image example tests
>>>>> (#76143), the contributor docs were improved (#76272, by Aaron), and
>>>>> transient GitHub errors no longer cause repeated alerts (#76185).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Still open:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Status on the PR lags, because the monitor runs every 15 minutes.
>>>>> Aaron saw the first bot action after about 23 minutes.
>>>>> * The monitor's budget for job status writes still fills up with
>>>>> several large fork runs active. We need to watch this as more
>>>>> contributors join.
>>>>> * A failed run after a rebase still drafts the PR, which can cancel
>>>>> auto-merge when the failure is a flaky test. Iliya also suggested that
>>>>> maintainer approvals could count towards running project CI.
>>>>> * The labels are confusing and could use better names.
>>>>> * Pilot PRs were mostly small to medium. Large core changes have had
>>>>> little testing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The objections
>>>>> --------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> You should vote knowing what was raised. Please read the original
>>>>> thread [5] and the [RESULT] thread [6] rather than rely on my summary.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Ash's main objection is that this optimises for the wrong thing: the
>>>>> problem is PRs not being reviewed, and making contributors run CI
>>>>> does nothing about that backlog. Ash also pointed out that allowing
>>>>> contributors to run CI in forks and forcing them to are separate
>>>>> things. This vote is about requiring it. Ash has not withdrawn this
>>>>> objection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My answer: it does not add review capacity, and I do not claim it
>>>>> does. The aim is to slow down iteration on big PRs, so that fewer of
>>>>> them compete for review, and to move the cost of getting a PR green
>>>>> to its author. How much that helps is my expectation, not a measured
>>>>> result.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Ash and Dennis both raised the effect on new contributors. Dennis
>>>>> described it as a big barrier to entry, and Ash the case of someone
>>>>> doing all the setup only to have the PR rejected afterwards.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My answer: the setup is now one step, with no second PR and no
>>>>> sorting through workflow files, but it is still an extra step that a
>>>>> new contributor did not have before. That cost is real. The pilot
>>>>> participants are experienced contributors, so the pilot does not tell
>>>>> us how a first-time contributor will find it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Slower CI for big PRs is intended, but it should be stated plainly.
>>>>> On 2026-10-05 I estimated about 85 minutes or more for a full matrix
>>>>> run in a fork. The first real full run (#75695) took about 2 hours 40
>>>>> minutes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the other side, Arrow, DataFusion and SeaTunnel already run PR CI in
>>>>> contributors' forks, or are moving to it, mainly to reduce pressure on
>>>>> the shared ASF runners. For us that is a side benefit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How the vote works
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a procedural vote, for the reasons in [2]: where CI runs for
>>>>> contributors' PRs is a decision about how the project operates, not a
>>>>> change to Airflow itself or its public interfaces. Hussein asked about
>>>>> this on the [RESULT] thread, and nobody objected to it in the reopened
>>>>> discussion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It passes with at least 3 binding +1 votes and more binding +1 than -1
>>>>> votes [7]. Everyone is welcome to vote; votes from PMC members are
>>>>> binding. A single -1 does not block it, but I will respond to every -1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The vote runs until 2026-11-09 12:00 UTC. That is longer than the
>>>>> 72-hour minimum because of the Summit Reconnect on 4-5 November and the
>>>>> weekend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [ ] +1 Switch on CI in contributors' forks for external contributors,
>>>>>     after a final pilot update
>>>>> [ ]  0 No opinion
>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not do this, because...
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1]
>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/AIRFLOW/pages/451974711/AIP-120+Run+CI+for+external+contributions+in+contributor+forks
>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/h5qsfqthmsqoh5j7wyy12r90mnnvz8kt
>>>>> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/qxjx3lnwm8gro0dstqr3cvgyj5jg6hyk
>>>>> [4]
>>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/main/dev/breeze/doc/ci/08_fork_ci_for_external_contributors.md
>>>>> [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/w74655o8y1jzrzcnygntyyovocf7zmzj
>>>>> [6] https://lists.apache.org/thread/krl1bzszlfgfz70m494rm8jq1ph6dr01
>>>>> [7] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> J.
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