We avoid React for the same reasons as the ASF and use Polymer 2 instead. Would 
that work?

Bolke.

> On 20 Jul 2017, at 19:35, Chris Riccomini <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hey Max,
> 
> Want to come down to WePay? We can set up a zoom for those that want to
> join online, and record it as well to post for the community.
> 
> Since Joy is just getting started, and it looks like there's going to be a
> K8s discussion next week, maybe we can shoot for the week after (the week
> of the 31st of July)? Care to float a few times that week?
> 
> Cheers,
> Chris
> 
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Maxime Beauchemin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds awesome, count me in!
>> 
>> * check out the prototype in my fork, I went far enough to hit some
>> hurdles, try different workarounds. I hooked up the Airflow Bootstrap
>> template too so that we feel at home in this new UI
>> * using a single `id` field is a requirement for FAB that airflow doesn't
>> respect (composite pks), either we add the feature to support that in FAB,
>> or we align on the Airflow side and modify the models and add a migration
>> script. This upgrade would require downtime and might be annoying to the
>> Airflow community, but could help with db performance a bit (smaller
>> index)... I probably could be convinced either way but I'm leaning on
>> improving FAB
>> * I'm a maintainer for FAB so I can help get stuff through there
>> * React is in limbo at the ASF for licensing reasons, so no React at least
>> for now
>> * npm/webpack/ES6, javascript only in `.js` files
>> * I vote for eslint + eslint-config-airbnb as a set of linting rules for JS
>> * Keep out of apache (for now), this new app ships as its own pypi package
>> `airflow-webserver`, have a period of overlap (maintaining 2 web apps)
>> before ripping out `airflow/www` from the core package
>> * You need to get in touch with Marty Kausas, an intern at Airbnb who's
>> been working on a Flask blueprint for improved, more personalized views on
>> DAGs that we were planning on merging into the main branch eventually. Some
>> of Marty's idea and code could be merged into this effort.
>> 
>> These are ideas on how I would proceed personally on this but definitely
>> everything here is up for discussion.
>> 
>> Let's meet physically at either WePay or Airbnb. Folks from the community,
>> let us know on this thread if you want to be part of this effort, we'll be
>> happy to include you.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Max
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Joy Gao <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey everyone,
>>> 
>>> I recently transferred to Data Infra team here at WePay to focus on
>>> Airflow-related initiatives.
>>> 
>>> Given the RBAC design is mostly hashed out, I'm happy to get this feature
>>> off the ground for Q3, starting with converting Airflow to Fab, if there
>>> are no objections.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joy
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Gurer Kiratli <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey all,
>>>> 
>>>> We talked about this internally. We would like to work on this feature
>>> but
>>>> given the immediate priorities we are not going to be working on it in
>>> Q3.
>>>> Comes end of Q3 we will reevaluate. Likely scenario is we can work on
>> it
>>>> late Q4 or Q12018.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Gurer
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Chris Riccomini <
>> [email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think FAB sounds like the right approach. Waiting to hear back with
>>>> notes
>>>>> on AirBNB H2 discussion to see if they want to take this up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> @Gurer, any idea when this will happen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Bolke de Bruin <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> One downside I see from FAB is that is does not do Business Role
>>>> mapping
>>>>>> to FAB role. I would prefer to create groups in IPA/LDAP/AD and
>> have
>>>>> those
>>>>>> map to FAB roles instead of needing to manage that in FAB.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> B.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 09:36, Bolke de Bruin <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for putting the thinking in! It is about time that we get
>>> this
>>>>>> moving.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The design looks pretty sound. One can argue about the different
>>>> roles
>>>>>> that are required, but that will be situation dependent I guess.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Implementation wise I would argue together with Max that FAB is a
>>>>> better
>>>>>> or best fit. The ER model that is being described is pretty much a
>>> copy
>>>>> of
>>>>>> a normal security model. So a reimplementation of that is 1)
>>>> significant
>>>>>> duplication of effort and 2) bound to have bugs that have been
>> solved
>>>> in
>>>>>> the other framework. Moreover, FAB does have integration out of the
>>> box
>>>>>> with some enterprisey systems like IPA, ActiveDirectory, and LDAP.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So while you argue that using FAB would increase the scope of the
>>>>>> proposal significantly, but I think that is not true. Using FAB
>> would
>>>>> allow
>>>>>> you to focus on what kind of out-of-the-box permission sets and
>> roles
>>>> we
>>>>>> would need and maybe address some issues that FAB lacks (maybe how
>> to
>>>>> deal
>>>>>> with non web access - ie. in DAGs, maybe Kerberos, probably how to
>>> deal
>>>>>> with API calls that are not CRUD). Implementation wise it probably
>>>>>> simplifies what we need to do. Maybe - using Max’s early POC as an
>>>>> example
>>>>>> - we can slowly move over?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On a side note: Im planning to hire 2-3 ppl to work on Airflow
>>> coming
>>>>>> year. Improvement of Security, Enterprise Integration, Revamp UI
>> are
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>> todo list. However, this is not confirmed yet as business
>> priorities
>>>>> might
>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bolke.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 15 Jun 2017, at 21:45, kalpesh dharwadkar <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @Dan:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your feedback. I will remove the REFRESH_DAG
>>> permission.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @Max:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your response.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The scope of my proposal was just to add RBAC security feature
>> to
>>>>>> Airflow
>>>>>>>> without replacing any existing frameworks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I understand that adopting FAB would serve Airflow better moving
>>>>>> forward,
>>>>>>>> however porting Airflow to using FAB significantly increases the
>>>> scope
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the proposal and I don't have the time and expertise to carry
>> out
>>>> the
>>>>>> tasks
>>>>>>>> in the extended scope.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hence, I'm curious to know if there's a plan for Airflow to
>>> migrate
>>>> to
>>>>>> FAB
>>>>>>>> this year?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Kalpesh
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Maxime Beauchemin <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to go with a framework for this. I did some
>>>>>>>>> experimentation using FlaskAppBuilder to go in this direction.
>> It
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>>>>> auth on different authentication backends out of the box
>> (oauth,
>>>>>> openid,
>>>>>>>>> ldap, registration, ...), generates perms for each view that
>> has
>>> an
>>>>>>>>> @has_access decorator, generates at set of perms for each ORM
>>> model
>>>>>> (show,
>>>>>>>>> edit, delete, add, ...) and enforces it in the CRUD views as
>> well
>>>> as
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> generated REST api that you get for free as a byprdoduct of
>>>> deriving
>>>>>> FAB's
>>>>>>>>> models (essentially it's SqlAlchemy with a layer on top).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I started a POC on FAB here a while ago:
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mistercrunch/airflow_webserver at the time
>> my
>>>>> main
>>>>>>>>> motivation was the free/instantaneous REST api.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think FAB is a decent fit as the porting should be fairly
>>>>>> straightforward
>>>>>>>>> (moving the flask views over and deprecating Flask-Admin in
>> favor
>>>> of
>>>>>> FAB's
>>>>>>>>> crud) though there was a few blockers. From memory I think FAB
>>>> didn't
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> the compound PKs we use in some of the Airflow models. We'd
>> have
>>> to
>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>> write a db migration script on the Airflow side, or add support
>>> for
>>>>>>>>> compound keys to FAB (I recently became a maintainer of the
>>>> project,
>>>>>> so I
>>>>>>>>> could help with that)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The only downside of FAB is that it's not as mature as
>> something
>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> Django, but porting to Django would surely be much more work.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Then there's the flask-security suite, but that looks like a
>> bit
>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>> patchwork to me, I guess we can pick and choose which we want
>> to
>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Dan Davydov <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Looks good to me in general, thanks for putting this together!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think the ability to integrate with external RBAC systems
>> like
>>>>> LDAP
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> important (i.e. the Airflow DB should not be decoupled with
>> the
>>>> RBAC
>>>>>>>>>> database wherever possible).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be too worried about the permissions about
>> refreshing
>>>>>> DAGs, as
>>>>>>>>>> far as I know this functionality is no longer required with
>> the
>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> webservers which reload state periodically, and will certainly
>>> be
>>>>>> removed
>>>>>>>>>> when we have a better DAG consistency story.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think it would also be good to think about this
>>>>>> proposal/implementation
>>>>>>>>>> and how it applied in the API-driven world (e.g. when
>> webserver
>>>> hits
>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>> like /clear on behalf of users instead of running commands
>>> against
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> database directly).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Bolke de Bruin <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Will respond but im traveling at the moment. Give me a few
>>> days.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Jun 2017, at 13:39, Chris Riccomini <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking in on this. We spent a good chunk of time thinking
>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to move forward with it, but want to make sure we're
>> all
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max? Bolke? Dan? Jeremiah?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:49 PM, kalpesh dharwadkar <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you all know, currently Airflow doesn’t have a built-in
>>> Role
>>>>>>>>> Based
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Access Control(RBAC) capability.  It does provide very
>>> limited
>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorization capability by providing admin, data_profiler,
>>> and
>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>>>> roles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, associating these roles to authenticated
>> identities
>>> is
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple effort.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To address this issue, I have created a design proposal for
>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>> RBAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>> into Airflow and simplifying user access management via the
>>>>> Airflow
>>>>>>>>>> UI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The design proposal is located at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+RBAC+proposal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any comments/questions/feedback are much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalpesh
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Joy Gao
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