Sorry, meant to say 4-6GB, not MB.

Ram

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Munagala Ramanath <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'm OK with increasing it to 1280MB.
>
> I agree with Sandeep about new people trying out Apex,
> often on limited environments like VMs limited to 4-6MB. With a default of
> 0.5GB per Buffer Server
> and 1GB per operator, things start to fail when the user has more than a
> handful of operators.
>
> I'm guessing it's not just the number of the operators that puts memory
> pressure on master memory
> but the size of the jars that get pulled in by all the operator classes
> and their dependencies. If this is
> true, one could cause failure even with a single, sufficiently complex
> operator.
>
> Ram
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Timothy Farkas <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sandeep,
>>
>> I have seen the issue even with small apps like Twitter Demo. It happens
>> less frequently in very small apps but the issue is still there. It
>> happens
>> frequently in medium size apps (10 containers). Could we increase the
>> MASTER_MEMORY_MB to 1280 instead of 2048? That way we can get greater
>> stability with the defaults settings without allocating too much
>> additional
>> memory?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Sandeep Deshmukh <
>> [email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > With large number of containers, the problem becomes severe and I too
>> have
>> > faced it.
>> >
>> > Not sure if default should be increased as that should work in most of
>> the
>> > cases and even when new people are trying out Apex for the first time.
>> > They may not have enough memory.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Sandeep
>> > On 13 Dec 2015 11:30, "Ganelin, Ilya" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Tim - great point, we reduce the memory consumption for operators and
>> do
>> > > actually increase it for the app master, especially when we have more
>> > > operators. I misread your original email.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thank you,
>> > > Ilya Ganelin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Timothy Farkas [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
>> >]
>> > > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 11:30 PM Eastern Standard Time
>> > > To: [email protected]
>> > > Subject: Re: Default App Master Container Memory Size
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi Ilya,
>> > >
>> > > Dou you reduce the memory to 256 mb for operators only or for the App
>> > > Master as well?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Tim
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Ganelin, Ilya <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Tim - in our applications we've actually tried to go with smaller
>> > > > containers, as small as 256 MB, simply because many operators don't
>> > > demand
>> > > > any memory and this allows us to run more partitions.
>> > > >
>> > > > We haven't noticed performance degradation.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank you,
>> > > > Ilya Ganelin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: Timothy Farkas [[email protected]<mailto:
>> [email protected]>]
>> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 11:02 PM Eastern Standard Time
>> > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > Subject: Default App Master Container Memory Size
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi All,
>> > > >
>> > > > The default value for MASTER_MEMORY_MB is 1024. I've observed in
>> > multiple
>> > > > demo apps and in the production apps of some of our users that 1024
>> MB
>> > is
>> > > > not enough memory, and the app master dies. This was observed on
>> small
>> > > > applications with 5 - 20 containers. I think the default app master
>> > > memory
>> > > > size should be 2048.
>> > > >
>> > > > Any feedback?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Tim
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