Hello Everyone,

I believe there is no object on the smoke test to be added to bigtop for
apex package.
I've created smoke tests for bigtop as per above.

If there no further comments, I'll create a pull request for the same.

Thanks,
Chinmay.


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Bigtop has consumed first patch for building apex packages into it's
> master branch.
> Commit mail:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/bigtop-commits/201602.mbox/%3C06c0ca62ac1b483d8ded090f0f2c8d73%40git.apache.org%3E
>
> What this means is bigtop master will be able to generate apex packages
> (3.3.0-incubating), both deb & rpm, when it build.
>
> For the second phase, we need to add smoke tests for our package in bigtop
> repo.
> This is an important steps for bigtop to host the generate package in
> bigtop repository during its 1.2.0 release.
>
> Here are my initial thoughts about smoke test:
> TEST::
> 1. Create mvn app with archetype
> 2. Build app
> 3. Run app with apex/dtcli
>
> VERIFICATION:
> 1. stdout file gets has random numbers per line.
>
> I see app created by archetype is randomNumberGenerator -> Console.
> I think this should be a good enough smoke test for apex package.
>
> Of course I need to check if we can do above with bigtop framework. But I
> have a hunch that we can, because there are standalone frameworks like us
> which has similar types of tests.
>
> Please share your opinion and thoughts on this.
>
> Thanks,
> Chinmay.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Thomas Weise <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> We should not package any Hadoop dependencies, they are provided by the
>> Bigtop stack.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Tushar Gosavi <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I just did a quick install of bigtop 1.1.0 on ubuntu and observed that
>> >  jersey-client-1.9.jar is already packaged in hadoop
>> > /usr/lib/hadoop/client/jersey-client.jar, so I guess it will be ok to
>> > include those in apex lib too. or If we are including hadoop jars
>> > in classpath while launching the apex application then it may not be
>> > needed.
>> >
>> > - Tushar.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > No worries David. I've updated the manpage.
>> > >
>> > > Just an update: apex bigtop packaging for rpm+deb is done. Here is the
>> > > branch on which I'm working if someone wants to look at:
>> > > https://github.com/chinmaykolhatkar/bigtop/blob/BIGTOP-2314
>> > >
>> > > Only the 3rd questions below is the question that is left to be
>> answered.
>> > > Once this is resolved, I'll create the pull request in bigtop.
>> > >
>> > > Following questions are related to licenses and inclusion of certain
>> > files
>> > > in apex rpm+deb:
>> > > 1. I'll be included LICENSE, DISCLAIMER, NOTICE from top folder of
>> core
>> > > repo in our rpm and deb package. Those will be present in standard
>> > location
>> > > i.e. /usr/lib/apex/
>> > > Please let me know otherwise.
>> > >
>> > > 2. Most of our runtime dependencies has ASF license, but certain
>> > libraries
>> > > has MIT and BSD licenses, hence I've included those licenses too in
>> rpm &
>> > > deb package in same location as above.
>> > > Please let me know otherwise.
>> > >
>> > > BSD - jline-2.11.jar, kryo-2.24.0.jar, minlog-1.2.jar
>> > > MIT - mbassador-1.1.9.jar
>> > >
>> > > 3. There are 2 jars (jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar,
>> > jersey-client-1.9.jar)
>> > > which has duel license of CDDL + GPLv2 with classpath exception:
>> > > https://jersey.java.net/license.html
>> > > I'm not an expert here. Hence can someone let me know whether these
>> > > libraries is OK to be packaged in rpm+deb of apex?
>> > >
>> > > If yes, should we also include that license in our package?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Chinmay.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:35 PM, David Yan <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I should've mentioned that I had a pull request that was merged
>> > yesterday
>> > > > that corrected the statement:
>> > > >
>> > > > https://github.com/DataTorrent/docs/pull/45
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:07 AM, Tushar Gosavi <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > In following statement, can you replace dtGateway with
>> > > ApplicationMaster
>> > > > > and Yarn. or may be remove this statement entirely.
>> > > > > apex is a wrapper around the REST API provided by dtGatway,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Tushar.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I've attached man page for apex in Jira. Here is the link to it:
>> > > > > >
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12788403/apex.1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Please view it by: man -l apex.1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > Chinmay.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Tushar Gosavi <
>> > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi Chinmay,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I am not able to find the attachment, may be attachments are
>> not
>> > > > > allowed
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > the mailing list. Can you attach the man page to the Jira?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > - Tushar.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
>> > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Hi All,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I've attached man page file for the purpose of bigtop
>> > > integration.
>> > > > > > > > Please have a look and let me know if there any any feedback
>> > > about
>> > > > > it.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > You can see the man page content of this file with:
>> > > > > > > > man -l apex.1
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > > Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
>> > > > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> Thanks. Will follow bigtop recommendation. i.e. remove
>> > > > > "-incubating".
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Thomas Weise <
>> > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> Please follow the recommendation and continue discussion
>> on
>> > the
>> > > > > > Bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> list.
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>> --
>> > > > > > > >>> sent from mobile
>> > > > > > > >>> On Feb 16, 2016 8:17 AM, "Chinmay Kolhatkar" <
>> > > [email protected]
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>> > I got a recommendation from bigtop community to drop
>> > > > > "-incubating"
>> > > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > >>> > version.
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > Here is the mail thread:
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/bigtop-dev/201602.mbox/%3C20160216154548.GA4472%40tpx%3E
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > Please let me know if removing "-incubating" is fine.
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
>> > > > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > > I've already started communication there.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Thomas Weise <
>> > > > > > > >>> [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> This is a question you should ask on the Bigtop
>> mailing
>> > > > list.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> --
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> sent from mobile
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> On Feb 16, 2016 5:25 AM, "Pradeep A. Dalvi" <
>> > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Yes. In case of RPM, the only restriction on
>> version
>> > is
>> > > > that
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > >>> can
>> > > > > > > >>> > not
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > contain '-'.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > However, as a workaround, one can use 'incubating'
>> as
>> > a
>> > > > part
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> %{release}.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Version: 3.3.0
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Release: incubating
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > apex-3.3.0-incubating.noarch.rpm
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > It is the same practice followed for pre-release
>> > > packages
>> > > > > e.g.
>> > > > > > > >>> with
>> > > > > > > >>> > rcX,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > alphaX, betaX being used in %{release}.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Regards,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Pradeep A. Dalvi
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar
>> <
>> > > > > > > >>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Hi Everyone,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > In one of the previous mails in this thread, we
>> > > decided
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > > >>> version
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > package will be "3.3.0-incubating".
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > The problem that I'm facing is in RPM base
>> version
>> > "-"
>> > > > is
>> > > > > > not
>> > > > > > > >>> > allowed.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Can we have package version to "3.3.0"?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > i.e. the packages created will be as follows:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > For RPM: apex-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > For DEB: apex_3.3.0-1_all.deb
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > There is another integration for Zepplin in
>> Bigtop
>> > > which
>> > > > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> > incubating
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > and
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > is having base version as "0.5.6".
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Please let me know your thoughts.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chinmay
>> Kolhatkar
>> > <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Thanks everyone for the feedback.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Also as Ram and David mentioned, I'll start
>> > creating
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > man
>> > > > > > > >>> page
>> > > > > > > >>> > as
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > well.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Thomas Weise <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> I think we already agreed that we will retain
>> the
>> > > > > current
>> > > > > > > >>> script
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> name
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> this bigtop iteration. There is a ticket for
>> > > > renaming,
>> > > > > > add
>> > > > > > > >>> you
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > suggestions
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> there.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> --
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> sent from mobile
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> On Feb 15, 2016 4:56 PM, "Sandesh Hegde" <
>> > > > > > > >>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > +1 for Symlink from apex to dtcli or start
>> the
>> > > > > > transition
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> process by
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> making
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dtcli as the symlink to apex cli.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > Renaming is a breaking change should be done
>> > > during
>> > > > > > major
>> > > > > > > >>> > version
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > number
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > change.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:57 AM David Yan <
>> > > > > > > >>> > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Apologies for hitting the "Send" button
>> too
>> > > > early.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > What is the scope of the name change?  If
>> we
>> > > > simply
>> > > > > > > have
>> > > > > > > >>> a
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> symlink
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> from
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > apex to dtcli, then it should have no
>> > backward
>> > > > > > > >>> compatibility
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > problem
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> at
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > all.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > But the proper name change would involve:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the name of DTCli class to
>> ApexCli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the prompt from dt> to apex>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the initial greeting when running
>> > the
>> > > > CLI
>> > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> something
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > like
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > "DT
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > CLI 3.3.0-incubating ..." to "Apex CLI
>> ...".
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > The above changes may break existing
>> scripts
>> > > that
>> > > > > > rely
>> > > > > > > >>> on the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> string
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > "DT".
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > But if folks are okay with this potential
>> > > > problem,
>> > > > > I
>> > > > > > am
>> > > > > > > >>> okay
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> with
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > name
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > change.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > For the man page, we can start with the
>> > content
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > this
>> > > > > > > >>> page:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > http://docs.datatorrent.com/dtcli/
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Plus the command line options when doing
>> > dtcli
>> > > > -h:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > usage: DTCli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -e <arg>    Commands are read from the
>> > > argument
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -f <arg>    Use the specified prompt at
>> all
>> > > time
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -h          Print this help
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -kp <arg>   Use the specified kerberos
>> > > principal
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -kt <arg>   Use the specified kerberos
>> > keytab
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -p <arg>    JSONP padding function
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -r          JSON Raw mode
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -v          Verbose mode level 1
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vv         Verbose mode level 2
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vvv        Verbose mode level 3
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vvvv       Verbose mode level 4
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > David
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:56 AM, David
>> Yan <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> [email protected]
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > What is the scope of the name change?
>> If
>> > we
>> > > > > simply
>> > > > > > > >>> have a
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > symlink
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> from
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > apex to dtcli, then it should have no
>> > > backward
>> > > > > > > >>> > compatibility
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> problem at
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > all.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > But the proper name change would
>> involve:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the name of DTCli class to
>> ApexCli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the prompt from dt> to apex>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the initial greeting when
>> running
>> > > the
>> > > > > CLI
>> > > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > something
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> like
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > "DT
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > CLI 3.3.0-incubating ..." to "Apex CLI
>> > ...".
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > The above changes may break existing
>> > scripts
>> > > > that
>> > > > > > > rely
>> > > > > > > >>> on
>> > > > > > > >>> > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > string
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > "DT".
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > But if folks are okay with this
>> potential
>> > > > > problem,
>> > > > > > I
>> > > > > > > am
>> > > > > > > >>> > okay
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > with
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > name
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > change.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > For the man page, we can start with the
>> > > content
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > > > this
>> > > > > > > >>> > page:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Chinmay
>> > > > > Kolhatkar
>> > > > > > <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> [email protected]
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Here is a suggestion I have related to
>> > name
>> > > > > > change:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 1. While packaging we change the name
>> of
>> > > > "dtcli"
>> > > > > > > >>> script to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > "apex".
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > This
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> done so that in future when we change
>> the
>> > > name
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> "apex",
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> users
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> apex don't have to transition much.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 2. We also keep a symlink named dtcli
>> > which
>> > > > > points
>> > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> apex
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > script.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > This
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> for backward compatibility.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 3. We still keep conf/dt-env.sh for
>> first
>> > > > > > > integration
>> > > > > > > >>> in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > bigtop.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> This
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> the interest of not changing the
>> content
>> > of
>> > > > > dtcli
>> > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > >>> apex
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > script.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 4. In apex 3.4.0, we take care of all
>> > these
>> > > > > naming
>> > > > > > > >>> related
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > changes
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> and
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> update bigtop repository later to
>> remove
>> > > > > > references
>> > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > all
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > together.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Please share your thoughts on above
>> > > approach.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Also, please share what could be the
>> man
>> > > page
>> > > > > > > content
>> > > > > > > >>> for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > "apex".
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:17 AM,
>> Chinmay
>> > > > > > Kolhatkar <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > Yes.. It'll be build from source tar
>> > > > > downloaded
>> > > > > > > >>> from one
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > apache
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > mirror: apache.osuosl.org
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > The reason for dt-env.sh is it's
>> sourced
>> > > > from
>> > > > > > > dtcli.
>> > > > > > > >>> > This
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > leaves
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> us
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > 3
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > options:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > If we should not have any dt-env.sh,
>> > dtcli
>> > > > > would
>> > > > > > > >>> need a
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > change
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> while
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > packaging.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > But if we want to use dtcli as it is,
>> > then
>> > > > we
>> > > > > > > would
>> > > > > > > >>> need
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dt-env.sh
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM,
>> Thomas
>> > > > Weise
>> > > > > <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> Looks good overall, though there
>> > > shouldn't
>> > > > be
>> > > > > > any
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> dt-env.sh
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> What will the bigtop package be
>> built
>> > > from,
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>> source
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> tar?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:31 PM,
>> > Chinmay
>> > > > > > > Kolhatkar
>> > > > > > > >>> <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Hi Thomas,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Thanks for the feedback.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > First, we're not changing the name
>> > > > > anywhere.
>> > > > > > > >>> We'll
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> follow
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > what
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> currently is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in source tarball for
>> > 3.3.0-incubating
>> > > > > > version.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Secondly, I've mentioned a
>> directory
>> > > > > > structure
>> > > > > > > >>> below
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> which
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > inline
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> with
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > other existing integrations with
>> > > bigtop.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The need for each file is as
>> follows:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 1. bin/dtcli -> CLI for apex
>> picked
>> > > from
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> engine/src/main/scripts/
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> source
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > code apex 3.3.0-incubating.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 2. conf/dt-env.sh -> This is
>> source
>> > > from
>> > > > > > dtcli.
>> > > > > > > >>> This
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > searches
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> hadoop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > binary path and exports an env
>> > variable
>> > > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> dtcli to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> use
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > it.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 3. lib/ -> Libraries for CLI. This
>> > list
>> > > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> extracted
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> in a
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> similar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> way to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > how DT Community Edition finds
>> > > dependency
>> > > > > > jars.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Please note that this is the first
>> > > > > iteration
>> > > > > > > >>> list of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> jars.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > I'm
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> trying to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > narrow this down to only those
>> which
>> > > are
>> > > > > > really
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> required.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The test that I'm running to
>> check if
>> > > > dtcli
>> > > > > > > runs
>> > > > > > > >>> fine
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> with
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> given
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dependency
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > is to launch+shutdown+kill+status
>> for
>> > > pi
>> > > > > > demo.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Above is the directory structure
>> > which
>> > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> required
>> > > > > > > >>> > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> CLI
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > work.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > What aniruddha and pradeep has
>> > > mentioned
>> > > > > are
>> > > > > > > some
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > additional
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > files
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> which
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > makes the like of administrator
>> > easier.
>> > > > For
>> > > > > > eg.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> /etc/skel
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Please let me know if this is
>> inline
>> > > with
>> > > > > > what
>> > > > > > > >>> you're
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> thinking.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > .
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |-- bin
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |   `-- dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |-- conf
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |   `-- dt-env.sh
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > `-- lib
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- ant-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> apex-api-3.3.0-incubating.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> > > > > > apex-bufferserver-3.3.0-incubating.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> > > apex-common-3.3.0-incubating.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-engine.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-engine-tests.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- bval-core-0.5.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-codec-1.10.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-lang3-3.1.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-logging-1.1.3.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> > grizzly-http-servlet-2.1.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- httpclient-4.3.5.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- httpcore-4.3.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- javax.servlet-3.1.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> javax.servlet-api-3.0.1.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jersey-client-1.9.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> > jetty-http-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> jetty-io-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> > jetty-util-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> > > > > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jline-2.11.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- kryo-2.24.0.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- mbassador-1.1.9.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- minlog-1.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- netlet-1.2.0.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- objenesis-2.1.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
>> > validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     `-- zip4j-1.3.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 3 directories, 40 files
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 3:24 AM,
>> > Thomas
>> > > > > > Weise <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Chinmay,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Before discussing where to put
>> the
>> > > > files,
>> > > > > > > let's
>> > > > > > > >>> > make
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > sure
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> they
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > are
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> really
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > needed for the operation of the
>> > CLI.
>> > > As
>> > > > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> names,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > anything
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> new
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> needs
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > reflect Apex in the name and
>> should
>> > > > > follow
>> > > > > > > >>> common
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> conventions,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> especially
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > in Bigtop where there are many
>> > > existing
>> > > > > > > >>> > integrations
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > look
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > at.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Thomas
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:07 AM,
>> > > > Chinmay
>> > > > > > > >>> Kolhatkar
>> > > > > > > >>> > <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Really good points Pradeep and
>> > > > > Aniruddha.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 1. I believe we won't need to
>> > > change
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>> dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> considering it
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> works
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > with
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > DT
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Community edition. We can keep
>> > the
>> > > > > > > directory
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> structure
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > similar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> that.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > dt-env.sh has variables which
>> > > > contains
>> > > > > > > >>> > information
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> required
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > launch.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 2. Let me check with bigtop
>> > > community
>> > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > >>> > whether
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > they
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> facilitate
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > installation of rpms/debs
>> before
>> > > user
>> > > > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> created.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> In
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> either
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > case,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > current
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > dtcli creates a .dt folder in
>> > home
>> > > > > > > directory.
>> > > > > > > >>> > Also
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > before
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > putting
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > anything
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in /etc/skel we need to define
>> > what
>> > > > are
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > default
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> contents
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > that
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > should
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > go
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > to ~/.dt/ folder. If there is
>> no
>> > > > > > defaults,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> probably we
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> should
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > not
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > explicitly add it in
>> /etc/skel.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 3.  /etc/profile.d approach
>> looks
>> > > > nice.
>> > > > > > > This
>> > > > > > > >>> way
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > contents
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dt-env.sh
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > are
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > present as env variables. But
>> I
>> > > see a
>> > > > > > catch
>> > > > > > > >>> > there.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Adding
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> dt-env.sh
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > /etc/profile.d would make all
>> the
>> > > > > > variables
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> available
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > at
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > runtime
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> all
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > time. I feel a little
>> skeptical
>> > > about
>> > > > > > that.
>> > > > > > > >>> > Maybe a
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> possible
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> collision
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > can
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > occur with other application
>> > vars.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Moreover, current dtcli does
>> > source
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > "../conf/dt-env.sh"
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> and
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > "~/.dt/dt-env.sh". So those
>> > > variables
>> > > > > are
>> > > > > > > >>> anyway
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> available.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > @Aniruddha, the Jira and PR
>> > effort
>> > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> happening
>> > > > > > > >>> > at
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Jira/repository.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Packaging related code usually
>> > goes
>> > > > > > there.
>> > > > > > > >>> > (That's
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > what
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> all
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > components
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in bigtop does).
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Having said that, once a PR is
>> > > > created,
>> > > > > > > I'll
>> > > > > > > >>> be
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > sharing
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > link
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> PR
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > here, so that apex community
>> as
>> > > well
>> > > > > can
>> > > > > > > >>> review
>> > > > > > > >>> > it.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:57
>> PM,
>> > > > > > Aniruddha
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> Thombare <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > +1 on suggestions and
>> approach.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > We may need to iron out
>> details
>> > > > about
>> > > > > > > exact
>> > > > > > > >>> > paths
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > etc.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Which can be done on jira /
>> PR
>> > > > > > comments.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Is that right @dev?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 7:53 pm
>> > > Pradeep
>> > > > > A.
>> > > > > > > >>> Dalvi <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Inline comments...
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at
>> 2:51
>> > > PM,
>> > > > > > > Chinmay
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Kolhatkar <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > @Thomas, Not all the jar
>> > > > present
>> > > > > in
>> > > > > > > DT
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> community
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > edition
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> will
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> be
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > included
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > there.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Here is the list of
>> jars I
>> > > > found
>> > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > >>> > common
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dependencies
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> between
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > apex
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > and DT Community
>> edition:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > netlet-1.2.0.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > kryo-2.24.0.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > bval-core-0.5.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > commons-lang3-3.1.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > httpclient-4.3.5.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > commons-codec-1.10.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > zip4j-1.3.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jline-2.11.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > ant-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > mbassador-1.1.9.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jackson-jaxrs-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jackson-xc-1.9.2.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Ofcourse, I'll be
>> running
>> > > some
>> > > > > > tests
>> > > > > > > do
>> > > > > > > >>> > check
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > that
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> works
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > properly
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > launch+shutdown+kill of
>> > apps
>> > > > with
>> > > > > > > only
>> > > > > > > >>> > these
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> libraries
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> present in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > isolation
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > without dependency on
>> local
>> > > m2.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > I'm believe that there
>> are
>> > > > > unwanted
>> > > > > > > >>> jars
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> which
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > are
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> used
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > compile
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > time
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > dependency and not
>> runtime
>> > in
>> > > > > above
>> > > > > > > >>> list
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> which I
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > can
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > drop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> keep
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > package
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > size minimal.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > @Anniruddha,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 1. dt-env.sh -> I'm not
>> > sure
>> > > if
>> > > > > all
>> > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dt-env.sh is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> required.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Only
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > required values I see
>> in it
>> > > are
>> > > > > > > >>> classpath.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> and
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dtcli is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> capable
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > building
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > it on the fly.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 2. dt-site.xml -> Yes,
>> > we'll
>> > > > have
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> see
>> > > > > > > >>> > how
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> can
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > find
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > path,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > dt-env.sh and all such
>> conf
>> > > > > files.
>> > > > > > If
>> > > > > > > >>> we
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> need a
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> change
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dtcli,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > then
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > community's opinion is
>> > > required
>> > > > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> whether
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > should
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> change
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > our
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > repo
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > or a copy of that with
>> > > required
>> > > > > > > changes
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> exist in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> repo
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > until
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > we
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > make
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > the dtcli generic
>> enough.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Can we have these file
>> paths
>> > > set
>> > > > > > using
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> environment
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > variables
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> with
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > some
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > default values in dtcli?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Then we can set such
>> params
>> > in
>> > > > > > > dt-env.sh.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 3. dt-sited.xml -> How
>> is
>> > > this
>> > > > > file
>> > > > > > > >>> > different
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > from
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dt-site.xml?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Not
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > sure
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > if
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > adding in /etc/skel
>> would
>> > > help.
>> > > > > > > Files &
>> > > > > > > >>> > Dirs
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > from
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > /etc/skel
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> are
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > copied
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > home of new user when
>> > useradd
>> > > > > > program
>> > > > > > > >>> is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> called.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > But
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> existing
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > users
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > this won't be of any
>> use.
>> > > > > Moreover,
>> > > > > > > >>> dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > creates
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > ~/.dt/
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > on
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > fly
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > if
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > not
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > encountered for the
>> first
>> > > time.
>> > > > > > Again
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> correct me
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > if
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> I'm
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> wrong.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Yes, you are right.
>> However
>> > > this
>> > > > > > would
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> probably be
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > necessary
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> step
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > rpm/deb, as they may also
>> get
>> > > > > > installed
>> > > > > > > >>> > during
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> OS
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> install
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > and
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > before
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > user
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > accounts were created.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 4. Changing bashrc &
>> > > > bash_profile
>> > > > > > ->
>> > > > > > > >>> I'm
>> > > > > > > >>> > not
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > sure
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> its
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> best
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > idea.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > We'll
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > anyway put dtcli in
>> > location
>> > > > > which
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> by
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> default
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > present
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> path
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > i.e.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > /usr/bin.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > For other env variables
>> > > specific
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > apex,
>> > > > > > > >>> > I'll
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > prefer
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > use
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > dt-env.sh
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > and
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > source it in dtcli
>> rather
>> > > than
>> > > > > > > changing
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> bashrc
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> etc...
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Instead, coping dt-env.sh
>> to
>> > > > > > > >>> /etc/profile.d/
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> shall
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > be
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> cleaner
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > way
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > achieve the same.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at
>> > 1:07
>> > > > PM,
>> > > > > > > >>> Aniruddha
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Thombare
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> [email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > @Chinmay,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > We need to consider
>> > > > following:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > System wide default
>> > config
>> > > > > files
>> > > > > > > can
>> > > > > > > >>> be
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > located
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > at
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> following
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > locations:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > /etc/apex/dt-env.sh
>> (we
>> > > may
>> > > > > have
>> > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > change
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> behaviour
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> on
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > how
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > it
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > finds
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > those locations)
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > /etc/apex/dt-site.xml
>> (we
>> > > may
>> > > > > > have
>> > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> change
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> behaviour on
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > how
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > it
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > finds those locations)
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > /etc/skel/.dt/dt-sited.xml
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > other
>> > > > > > > >>> > files
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > (for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> new
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > users
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> that
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > will
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > be
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > created in system in
>> > > future.)
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > We may also have to
>> > modify
>> > > > > > bashrc /
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > bashprofile
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> population
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > any
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > variables that are
>> > > required.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > @dev, please put in
>> your
>> > > > > > comments /
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > suggestion.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Aniruddha
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016
>> at
>> > > 1:16
>> > > > > AM,
>> > > > > > > >>> Thomas
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> Weise
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > -->
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016
>> at
>> > > 9:05
>> > > > > AM,
>> > > > > > > >>> Chinmay
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> Kolhatkar <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> [email protected]
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone!!
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Continuing with
>> > > packaging
>> > > > > > > effort
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> (rpm+deb)
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > apex,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> here
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > are
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > some
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > proposals
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > about package
>> > structure
>> > > > > etc..
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Before posting it
>> on
>> > > > > bbigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> mailing
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > list, I
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> have
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> some
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > question
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > apex
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > community.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Proposed Directory
>> > > > > structure
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> apex
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > package
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > both
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> deb &
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > rpm:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > /usr/lib/apex/bin/dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-api-<version>.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-engine-<version>.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >>
>> /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-bufferserver-<version>.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-common-<version>.jar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > /usr/lib/apex/lib/<other
>> > > > > > > >>> dependent
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> jars>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > /usr/bin/dtcli ->
>> > > > > > > >>> > /usr/lib/apex/bin/dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> /usr/share/doc/man/man1/dtcli.1.gz
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > /usr/share/doc/apex/license/LICENSE.txt
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >>
>> /usr/share/doc/apex/license/<package>-LICENSE.txt
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > /usr/share/doc/apex/CHANGELOG
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > /usr/share/doc/apex/NOTICE
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <version> =
>> > > > > 3.3.0-incubating.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <other dependent
>> > jars>
>> > > =
>> > > > > All
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>> 3rd
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> party
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> jars
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > which
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> are
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > required
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > apex
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > to run. Usually
>> the
>> > > > > > > dependencies
>> > > > > > > >>> are
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > packaged
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> as
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> part of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > rpm/deb
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > by
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > any
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > software in
>> bigtop.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Can you specify what
>> > > those
>> > > > > jars
>> > > > > > > >>> are in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > context?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> Same
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > as
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > shipped
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > with
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > DT community
>> addition
>> > > under
>> > > > > > lib/
>> > > > > > > ?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <package LICENSE>
>> =
>> > > > > Licenses
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > corresponding
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > 3rd
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> party
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > jars
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > which
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > needs
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > to included while
>> > > > > packaging.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Questions related
>> to
>> > > > this:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 1. Should we call
>> the
>> > > cli
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> apex as
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > "apex"
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > instead
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > "dtcli"
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > package?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > I think we should
>> keep
>> > > the
>> > > > > name
>> > > > > > > >>> until
>> > > > > > > >>> > we
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> are
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> able
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> change
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > it
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Apex.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Otherwise this may
>> get
>> > > > > > confusing.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 2. I see that all
>> > > > softwares
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > >>> bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> have
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > man
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > page
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > their
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > executables.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > I think we should
>> > have
>> > > it
>> > > > > too
>> > > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> dtcli.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Is
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> there
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > any
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > documentation
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > which I
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > can convert to man
>> > > page?
>> > > > or
>> > > > > > can
>> > > > > > > >>> I use
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > output
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> "dtcli
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > --help"?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 3. Do we want to
>> call
>> > > > > version
>> > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> apex
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> Bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > as
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> 3.3.0 OR
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 3.3.0-incubating?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Has to be
>> -incubating
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 4. Is it ok for
>> apex
>> > > > > package
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> to
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> depend
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > on
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> 2.7.1
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > version
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > bigtop hadoop? Any
>> > > > problems
>> > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > >>> we
>> > > > > > > >>> > see
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > with
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> this
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > dependency?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Should work without
>> > > > changed.
>> > > > > I
>> > > > > > > >>> thought
>> > > > > > > >>> > we
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> certified
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> against
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 2.7.0?
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 5. Following is
>> the
>> > > > apache
>> > > > > > > mirror
>> > > > > > > >>> > from
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > which
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> will
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > pick
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > apex
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > source for
>> > compilation
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > >>> packaging.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Please
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > correct
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> if
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > incorrect:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
>> > > > > http://apache.osuosl.org/incubator/apex/v3.3.0-incubating/
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >     NOTE:
>> > > > > apache.osuosl.org
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> mirror
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> used
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > by
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> all
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > softwares
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > bigtop.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Please share your
>> > > > opinion.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Chinmay.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8,
>> 2016
>> > at
>> > > > > 11:19
>> > > > > > > AM,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> Chinmay
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > Kolhatkar
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Yes.. Starting
>> to
>> > > work
>> > > > on
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> packaging.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > I've already
>> > started
>> > > > > > > >>> discussion on
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dev
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> mailing
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > list
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > integration.
>> Also
>> > > > > created a
>> > > > > > > >>> Jira
>> > > > > > > >>> > for
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> same.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > For
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> this
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > communities
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > reference, here
>> is
>> > > the
>> > > > > > bigtop
>> > > > > > > >>> Jira:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > BIGTOP-2313.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8,
>> 2016
>> > > at
>> > > > > 1:13
>> > > > > > > AM,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> Thomas
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> Weise <
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Chinmay,
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> I don't see
>> > anything
>> > > > > under
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > prerequisites
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> that
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> would
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> be a
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > problem.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > We
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> looked
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> at the ASF
>> > licencing
>> > > > > > > >>> compatibility
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> as
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > part
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> becoming
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > an
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > incubator
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> project.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Please focus on
>> > the
>> > > > > > > packaging
>> > > > > > > >>> > during
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> next
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> weeks.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Since
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > work
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > will
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> be
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> part of Bigtop,
>> > > > related
>> > > > > > > >>> > discussions
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> and
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> JIRAs
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> should
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > also
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > be
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > there.
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Would be good
>> to
>> > > have
>> > > > > the
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