Thanks Thomas.

I've created pull request to bigtop for addition of smoke tests:
https://github.com/apache/bigtop/pull/94


On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 12:28 AM, Thomas Weise <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Not only is there no objection, here is an enthusiastic +1
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I believe there is no object on the smoke test to be added to bigtop for
> > apex package.
> > I've created smoke tests for bigtop as per above.
> >
> > If there no further comments, I'll create a pull request for the same.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chinmay.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Bigtop has consumed first patch for building apex packages into it's
> > > master branch.
> > > Commit mail:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/bigtop-commits/201602.mbox/%3C06c0ca62ac1b483d8ded090f0f2c8d73%40git.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > What this means is bigtop master will be able to generate apex packages
> > > (3.3.0-incubating), both deb & rpm, when it build.
> > >
> > > For the second phase, we need to add smoke tests for our package in
> > bigtop
> > > repo.
> > > This is an important steps for bigtop to host the generate package in
> > > bigtop repository during its 1.2.0 release.
> > >
> > > Here are my initial thoughts about smoke test:
> > > TEST::
> > > 1. Create mvn app with archetype
> > > 2. Build app
> > > 3. Run app with apex/dtcli
> > >
> > > VERIFICATION:
> > > 1. stdout file gets has random numbers per line.
> > >
> > > I see app created by archetype is randomNumberGenerator -> Console.
> > > I think this should be a good enough smoke test for apex package.
> > >
> > > Of course I need to check if we can do above with bigtop framework.
> But I
> > > have a hunch that we can, because there are standalone frameworks like
> us
> > > which has similar types of tests.
> > >
> > > Please share your opinion and thoughts on this.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chinmay.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Thomas Weise <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> We should not package any Hadoop dependencies, they are provided by
> the
> > >> Bigtop stack.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Tushar Gosavi <
> [email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I just did a quick install of bigtop 1.1.0 on ubuntu and observed
> that
> > >> >  jersey-client-1.9.jar is already packaged in hadoop
> > >> > /usr/lib/hadoop/client/jersey-client.jar, so I guess it will be ok
> to
> > >> > include those in apex lib too. or If we are including hadoop jars
> > >> > in classpath while launching the apex application then it may not be
> > >> > needed.
> > >> >
> > >> > - Tushar.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > [email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > No worries David. I've updated the manpage.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Just an update: apex bigtop packaging for rpm+deb is done. Here is
> > the
> > >> > > branch on which I'm working if someone wants to look at:
> > >> > > https://github.com/chinmaykolhatkar/bigtop/blob/BIGTOP-2314
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Only the 3rd questions below is the question that is left to be
> > >> answered.
> > >> > > Once this is resolved, I'll create the pull request in bigtop.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Following questions are related to licenses and inclusion of
> certain
> > >> > files
> > >> > > in apex rpm+deb:
> > >> > > 1. I'll be included LICENSE, DISCLAIMER, NOTICE from top folder of
> > >> core
> > >> > > repo in our rpm and deb package. Those will be present in standard
> > >> > location
> > >> > > i.e. /usr/lib/apex/
> > >> > > Please let me know otherwise.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2. Most of our runtime dependencies has ASF license, but certain
> > >> > libraries
> > >> > > has MIT and BSD licenses, hence I've included those licenses too
> in
> > >> rpm &
> > >> > > deb package in same location as above.
> > >> > > Please let me know otherwise.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > BSD - jline-2.11.jar, kryo-2.24.0.jar, minlog-1.2.jar
> > >> > > MIT - mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 3. There are 2 jars (jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar,
> > >> > jersey-client-1.9.jar)
> > >> > > which has duel license of CDDL + GPLv2 with classpath exception:
> > >> > > https://jersey.java.net/license.html
> > >> > > I'm not an expert here. Hence can someone let me know whether
> these
> > >> > > libraries is OK to be packaged in rpm+deb of apex?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > If yes, should we also include that license in our package?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > > Chinmay.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:35 PM, David Yan <
> [email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > I should've mentioned that I had a pull request that was merged
> > >> > yesterday
> > >> > > > that corrected the statement:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > https://github.com/DataTorrent/docs/pull/45
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:07 AM, Tushar Gosavi <
> > >> > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > In following statement, can you replace dtGateway with
> > >> > > ApplicationMaster
> > >> > > > > and Yarn. or may be remove this statement entirely.
> > >> > > > > apex is a wrapper around the REST API provided by dtGatway,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > - Tushar.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > >> > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I've attached man page for apex in Jira. Here is the link to
> > it:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12788403/apex.1
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Please view it by: man -l apex.1
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > Chinmay.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Tushar Gosavi <
> > >> > > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Hi Chinmay,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > I am not able to find the attachment, may be attachments
> are
> > >> not
> > >> > > > > allowed
> > >> > > > > > in
> > >> > > > > > > the mailing list. Can you attach the man page to the Jira?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > - Tushar.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > >> > > > [email protected]
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > I've attached man page file for the purpose of bigtop
> > >> > > integration.
> > >> > > > > > > > Please have a look and let me know if there any any
> > feedback
> > >> > > about
> > >> > > > > it.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > You can see the man page content of this file with:
> > >> > > > > > > > man -l apex.1
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > > Chinmay.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > >> > > > > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >> Thanks. Will follow bigtop recommendation. i.e. remove
> > >> > > > > "-incubating".
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Thomas Weise <
> > >> > > > > [email protected]
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> Please follow the recommendation and continue
> discussion
> > >> on
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > Bigtop
> > >> > > > > > > >>> list.
> > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>> sent from mobile
> > >> > > > > > > >>> On Feb 16, 2016 8:17 AM, "Chinmay Kolhatkar" <
> > >> > > [email protected]
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > I got a recommendation from bigtop community to drop
> > >> > > > > "-incubating"
> > >> > > > > > > from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > version.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > Here is the mail thread:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/bigtop-dev/201602.mbox/%3C20160216154548.GA4472%40tpx%3E
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > Please let me know if removing "-incubating" is
> fine.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > Chinmay.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > >> > > > > > > [email protected]
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > > I've already started communication there.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Thomas Weise <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> This is a question you should ask on the Bigtop
> > >> mailing
> > >> > > > list.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> sent from mobile
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> On Feb 16, 2016 5:25 AM, "Pradeep A. Dalvi" <
> > >> > > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Yes. In case of RPM, the only restriction on
> > >> version
> > >> > is
> > >> > > > that
> > >> > > > > > it
> > >> > > > > > > >>> can
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > not
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > contain '-'.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > However, as a workaround, one can use
> > 'incubating'
> > >> as
> > >> > a
> > >> > > > part
> > >> > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> %{release}.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Version: 3.3.0
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Release: incubating
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > apex-3.3.0-incubating.noarch.rpm
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > It is the same practice followed for
> pre-release
> > >> > > packages
> > >> > > > > e.g.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> with
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > rcX,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > alphaX, betaX being used in %{release}.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Pradeep A. Dalvi
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Chinmay
> > Kolhatkar
> > >> <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > In one of the previous mails in this thread,
> we
> > >> > > decided
> > >> > > > > that
> > >> > > > > > > >>> version
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > package will be "3.3.0-incubating".
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > The problem that I'm facing is in RPM base
> > >> version
> > >> > "-"
> > >> > > > is
> > >> > > > > > not
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > allowed.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Can we have package version to "3.3.0"?
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > i.e. the packages created will be as follows:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > For RPM: apex-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > For DEB: apex_3.3.0-1_all.deb
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > There is another integration for Zepplin in
> > >> Bigtop
> > >> > > which
> > >> > > > > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > incubating
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > and
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > is having base version as "0.5.6".
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Please let me know your thoughts.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Chinmay.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chinmay
> > >> Kolhatkar
> > >> > <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Thanks everyone for the feedback.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Also as Ram and David mentioned, I'll start
> > >> > creating
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > > man
> > >> > > > > > > >>> page
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > as
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > well.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Chinmay.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Thomas
> > Weise <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> I think we already agreed that we will
> > retain
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > current
> > >> > > > > > > >>> script
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> name
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > in
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> this bigtop iteration. There is a ticket
> for
> > >> > > > renaming,
> > >> > > > > > add
> > >> > > > > > > >>> you
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > suggestions
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> there.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> sent from mobile
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> On Feb 15, 2016 4:56 PM, "Sandesh Hegde" <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > +1 for Symlink from apex to dtcli or
> start
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > > transition
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> process by
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> making
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dtcli as the symlink to apex cli.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > Renaming is a breaking change should be
> > done
> > >> > > during
> > >> > > > > > major
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > version
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > number
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > change.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:57 AM David
> Yan
> > <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > [email protected]
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Apologies for hitting the "Send"
> button
> > >> too
> > >> > > > early.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > What is the scope of the name change?
> > If
> > >> we
> > >> > > > simply
> > >> > > > > > > have
> > >> > > > > > > >>> a
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> symlink
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > apex to dtcli, then it should have no
> > >> > backward
> > >> > > > > > > >>> compatibility
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > problem
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> at
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > all.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > But the proper name change would
> > involve:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the name of DTCli class to
> > >> ApexCli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the prompt from dt> to apex>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the initial greeting when
> > running
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > CLI
> > >> > > > > > from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> something
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > like
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > "DT
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > CLI 3.3.0-incubating ..." to "Apex CLI
> > >> ...".
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > The above changes may break existing
> > >> scripts
> > >> > > that
> > >> > > > > > rely
> > >> > > > > > > >>> on the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> string
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > "DT".
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > But if folks are okay with this
> > potential
> > >> > > > problem,
> > >> > > > > I
> > >> > > > > > am
> > >> > > > > > > >>> okay
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> with
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > name
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > change.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > For the man page, we can start with
> the
> > >> > content
> > >> > > > of
> > >> > > > > > this
> > >> > > > > > > >>> page:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > http://docs.datatorrent.com/dtcli/
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Plus the command line options when
> doing
> > >> > dtcli
> > >> > > > -h:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > usage: DTCli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -e <arg>    Commands are read from
> the
> > >> > > argument
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -f <arg>    Use the specified prompt
> at
> > >> all
> > >> > > time
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -h          Print this help
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -kp <arg>   Use the specified
> kerberos
> > >> > > principal
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -kt <arg>   Use the specified
> kerberos
> > >> > keytab
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -p <arg>    JSONP padding function
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -r          JSON Raw mode
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -v          Verbose mode level 1
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vv         Verbose mode level 2
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vvv        Verbose mode level 3
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vvvv       Verbose mode level 4
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > David
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:56 AM, David
> > >> Yan <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> [email protected]
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > What is the scope of the name
> change?
> > >> If
> > >> > we
> > >> > > > > simply
> > >> > > > > > > >>> have a
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > symlink
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > apex to dtcli, then it should have
> no
> > >> > > backward
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > compatibility
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> problem at
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > all.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > But the proper name change would
> > >> involve:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the name of DTCli class to
> > >> ApexCli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the prompt from dt> to
> apex>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the initial greeting when
> > >> running
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > CLI
> > >> > > > > > > from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > something
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> like
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > "DT
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > CLI 3.3.0-incubating ..." to "Apex
> CLI
> > >> > ...".
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > The above changes may break existing
> > >> > scripts
> > >> > > > that
> > >> > > > > > > rely
> > >> > > > > > > >>> on
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > string
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > "DT".
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > But if folks are okay with this
> > >> potential
> > >> > > > > problem,
> > >> > > > > > I
> > >> > > > > > > am
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > okay
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > with
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > name
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > change.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > For the man page, we can start with
> > the
> > >> > > content
> > >> > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > this
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > page:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:04 PM,
> > Chinmay
> > >> > > > > Kolhatkar
> > >> > > > > > <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> [email protected]
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Here is a suggestion I have related
> > to
> > >> > name
> > >> > > > > > change:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 1. While packaging we change the
> name
> > >> of
> > >> > > > "dtcli"
> > >> > > > > > > >>> script to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > "apex".
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > This
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> done so that in future when we
> change
> > >> the
> > >> > > name
> > >> > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> "apex",
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> users
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > bigtop
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> apex don't have to transition much.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 2. We also keep a symlink named
> dtcli
> > >> > which
> > >> > > > > points
> > >> > > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> apex
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > script.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > This
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> for backward compatibility.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 3. We still keep conf/dt-env.sh for
> > >> first
> > >> > > > > > > integration
> > >> > > > > > > >>> in
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > bigtop.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> This
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> in
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> the interest of not changing the
> > >> content
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > > dtcli
> > >> > > > > > or
> > >> > > > > > > >>> apex
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > script.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 4. In apex 3.4.0, we take care of
> all
> > >> > these
> > >> > > > > naming
> > >> > > > > > > >>> related
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > changes
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> and
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> update bigtop repository later to
> > >> remove
> > >> > > > > > references
> > >> > > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > dtcli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > all
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > together.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Please share your thoughts on above
> > >> > > approach.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Also, please share what could be
> the
> > >> man
> > >> > > page
> > >> > > > > > > content
> > >> > > > > > > >>> for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > "apex".
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Chinmay.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:17 AM,
> > >> Chinmay
> > >> > > > > > Kolhatkar <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > Yes.. It'll be build from source
> > tar
> > >> > > > > downloaded
> > >> > > > > > > >>> from one
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > apache
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > mirror: apache.osuosl.org
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > The reason for dt-env.sh is it's
> > >> sourced
> > >> > > > from
> > >> > > > > > > dtcli.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > This
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > leaves
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> us
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > 3
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > options:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > If we should not have any
> > dt-env.sh,
> > >> > dtcli
> > >> > > > > would
> > >> > > > > > > >>> need a
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > change
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> while
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > packaging.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > But if we want to use dtcli as it
> > is,
> > >> > then
> > >> > > > we
> > >> > > > > > > would
> > >> > > > > > > >>> need
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dt-env.sh
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM,
> > >> Thomas
> > >> > > > Weise
> > >> > > > > <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > [email protected]
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> Looks good overall, though there
> > >> > > shouldn't
> > >> > > > be
> > >> > > > > > any
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> dt-env.sh
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> What will the bigtop package be
> > >> built
> > >> > > from,
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> source
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> tar?
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:31 PM,
> > >> > Chinmay
> > >> > > > > > > Kolhatkar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > [email protected]
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Hi Thomas,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Thanks for the feedback.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > First, we're not changing the
> > name
> > >> > > > > anywhere.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> We'll
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> follow
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > what
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> currently is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in source tarball for
> > >> > 3.3.0-incubating
> > >> > > > > > version.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Secondly, I've mentioned a
> > >> directory
> > >> > > > > > structure
> > >> > > > > > > >>> below
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> which
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > inline
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> with
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > other existing integrations
> with
> > >> > > bigtop.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The need for each file is as
> > >> follows:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 1. bin/dtcli -> CLI for apex
> > >> picked
> > >> > > from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> engine/src/main/scripts/
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> source
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > code apex 3.3.0-incubating.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 2. conf/dt-env.sh -> This is
> > >> source
> > >> > > from
> > >> > > > > > dtcli.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> This
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > searches
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> hadoop
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > binary path and exports an env
> > >> > variable
> > >> > > > for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> dtcli to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> use
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > it.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 3. lib/ -> Libraries for CLI.
> > This
> > >> > list
> > >> > > > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> extracted
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> in a
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> similar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> way to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > how DT Community Edition finds
> > >> > > dependency
> > >> > > > > > jars.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Please note that this is the
> > first
> > >> > > > > iteration
> > >> > > > > > > >>> list of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> jars.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > I'm
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> trying to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > narrow this down to only those
> > >> which
> > >> > > are
> > >> > > > > > really
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> required.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The test that I'm running to
> > >> check if
> > >> > > > dtcli
> > >> > > > > > > runs
> > >> > > > > > > >>> fine
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> with
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> given
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dependency
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > is to
> > launch+shutdown+kill+status
> > >> for
> > >> > > pi
> > >> > > > > > demo.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Above is the directory
> structure
> > >> > which
> > >> > > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> required
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> CLI
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > work.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > What aniruddha and pradeep has
> > >> > > mentioned
> > >> > > > > are
> > >> > > > > > > some
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > additional
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > files
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> which
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > makes the like of
> administrator
> > >> > easier.
> > >> > > > For
> > >> > > > > > eg.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> /etc/skel
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Please let me know if this is
> > >> inline
> > >> > > with
> > >> > > > > > what
> > >> > > > > > > >>> you're
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> thinking.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Chinmay.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > .
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |-- bin
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |   `-- dtcli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |-- conf
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |   `-- dt-env.sh
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > `-- lib
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- ant-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> apex-api-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> > > > > > apex-bufferserver-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> > > apex-common-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-engine.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-engine-tests.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- bval-core-0.5.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-codec-1.10.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-lang3-3.1.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > commons-logging-1.1.3.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> > grizzly-http-servlet-2.1.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- httpclient-4.3.5.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- httpcore-4.3.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- javax.servlet-3.1.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> javax.servlet-api-3.0.1.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jersey-client-1.9.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> > jetty-http-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> jetty-io-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> > jetty-util-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> > > > > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jline-2.11.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- kryo-2.24.0.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- minlog-1.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- netlet-1.2.0.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- objenesis-2.1.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > >> > validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     `-- zip4j-1.3.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 3 directories, 40 files
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 3:24
> AM,
> > >> > Thomas
> > >> > > > > > Weise <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Chinmay,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Before discussing where to
> put
> > >> the
> > >> > > > files,
> > >> > > > > > > let's
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > make
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > sure
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> they
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > are
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> really
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > needed for the operation of
> > the
> > >> > CLI.
> > >> > > As
> > >> > > > > for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> names,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > anything
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> new
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> needs
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > reflect Apex in the name and
> > >> should
> > >> > > > > follow
> > >> > > > > > > >>> common
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> conventions,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> especially
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > in Bigtop where there are
> many
> > >> > > existing
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > integrations
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > look
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > at.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Thomas
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:07
> > AM,
> > >> > > > Chinmay
> > >> > > > > > > >>> Kolhatkar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Really good points Pradeep
> > and
> > >> > > > > Aniruddha.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 1. I believe we won't need
> > to
> > >> > > change
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> dtcli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> considering it
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> works
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > with
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > DT
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Community edition. We can
> > keep
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > > directory
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> structure
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > similar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> that.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > dt-env.sh has variables
> > which
> > >> > > > contains
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > information
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> required
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dtcli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > launch.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 2. Let me check with
> bigtop
> > >> > > community
> > >> > > > > > that
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > whether
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > they
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> facilitate
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > installation of rpms/debs
> > >> before
> > >> > > user
> > >> > > > > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> created.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> In
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> either
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > case,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > current
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > dtcli creates a .dt folder
> > in
> > >> > home
> > >> > > > > > > directory.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > Also
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > before
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > putting
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > anything
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in /etc/skel we need to
> > define
> > >> > what
> > >> > > > are
> > >> > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > default
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> contents
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > that
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > should
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > go
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > to ~/.dt/ folder. If there
> > is
> > >> no
> > >> > > > > > defaults,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> probably we
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> should
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > not
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > explicitly add it in
> > >> /etc/skel.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 3.  /etc/profile.d
> approach
> > >> looks
> > >> > > > nice.
> > >> > > > > > > This
> > >> > > > > > > >>> way
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > contents
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dt-env.sh
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > are
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > present as env variables.
> > But
> > >> I
> > >> > > see a
> > >> > > > > > catch
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > there.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Adding
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> dt-env.sh
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > /etc/profile.d would make
> > all
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > > variables
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> available
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > at
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > runtime
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> all
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > time. I feel a little
> > >> skeptical
> > >> > > about
> > >> > > > > > that.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > Maybe a
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> possible
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> collision
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > can
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > occur with other
> application
> > >> > vars.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Moreover, current dtcli
> does
> > >> > source
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > "../conf/dt-env.sh"
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> and
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > "~/.dt/dt-env.sh". So
> those
> > >> > > variables
> > >> > > > > are
> > >> > > > > > > >>> anyway
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> available.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > @Aniruddha, the Jira and
> PR
> > >> > effort
> > >> > > is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> happening
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > at
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Bigtop
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Jira/repository.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Packaging related code
> > usually
> > >> > goes
> > >> > > > > > there.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > (That's
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > what
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> all
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > components
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in bigtop does).
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Having said that, once a
> PR
> > is
> > >> > > > created,
> > >> > > > > > > I'll
> > >> > > > > > > >>> be
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > sharing
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > link
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> PR
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > here, so that apex
> community
> > >> as
> > >> > > well
> > >> > > > > can
> > >> > > > > > > >>> review
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > it.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Chinmay.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at
> 7:57
> > >> PM,
> > >> > > > > > Aniruddha
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> Thombare <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > [email protected]
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > +1 on suggestions and
> > >> approach.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > We may need to iron out
> > >> details
> > >> > > > about
> > >> > > > > > > exact
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > paths
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > etc.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Which can be done on
> jira
> > /
> > >> PR
> > >> > > > > > comments.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Is that right @dev?
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 7:53
> > pm
> > >> > > Pradeep
> > >> > > > > A.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> Dalvi <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Inline comments...
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016
> at
> > >> 2:51
> > >> > > PM,
> > >> > > > > > > Chinmay
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Kolhatkar <
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> [email protected]
> > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > @Thomas, Not all the
> > jar
> > >> > > > present
> > >> > > > > in
> > >> > > > > > > DT
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> community
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > edition
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> will
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> be
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > included
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > there.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Here is the list of
> > >> jars I
> > >> > > > found
> > >> > > > > > from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > common
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dependencies
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> between
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > apex
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > and DT Community
> > >> edition:
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > netlet-1.2.0.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > kryo-2.24.0.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > bval-core-0.5.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> commons-lang3-3.1.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > httpclient-4.3.5.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> commons-codec-1.10.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > zip4j-1.3.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jline-2.11.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > ant-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > jackson-jaxrs-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jackson-xc-1.9.2.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Ofcourse, I'll be
> > >> running
> > >> > > some
> > >> > > > > > tests
> > >> > > > > > > do
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > check
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > that
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dtcli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> works
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > properly
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > launch+shutdown+kill
> > of
> > >> > apps
> > >> > > > with
> > >> > > > > > > only
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > these
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> libraries
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> present in
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > isolation
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > without dependency
> on
> > >> local
> > >> > > m2.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > I'm believe that
> there
> > >> are
> > >> > > > > unwanted
> > >> > > > > > > >>> jars
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> which
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > are
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> used
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > compile
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > time
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > dependency and not
> > >> runtime
> > >> > in
> > >> > > > > above
> > >> > > > > > > >>> list
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> which I
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > can
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > drop
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> keep
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > package
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > size minimal.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > @Anniruddha,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 1. dt-env.sh -> I'm
> > not
> > >> > sure
> > >> > > if
> > >> > > > > all
> > >> > > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dt-env.sh is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> required.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Only
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > required values I
> see
> > >> in it
> > >> > > are
> > >> > > > > > > >>> classpath.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> and
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dtcli is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> capable
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > of
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > building
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > it on the fly.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 2. dt-site.xml ->
> Yes,
> > >> > we'll
> > >> > > > have
> > >> > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> see
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > how
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > dtcli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> can
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > find
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > jar
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > path,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > dt-env.sh and all
> such
> > >> conf
> > >> > > > > files.
> > >> > > > > > If
> > >> > > > > > > >>> we
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> need a
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> change
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > in
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dtcli,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > then
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > community's opinion
> is
> > >> > > required
> > >> > > > > for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> whether
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > dtcli
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > should
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> change
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > our
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > repo
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > or a copy of that
> with
> > >> > > required
> > >> > > > > > > changes
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> exist in
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> bigtop
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> repo
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > until
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > we
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > make
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > the dtcli generic
> > >> enough.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Can we have these file
> > >> paths
> > >> > > set
> > >> > > > > > using
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> environment
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > variables
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> with
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > some
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > default values in
> dtcli?
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Then we can set such
> > >> params
> > >> > in
> > >> > > > > > > dt-env.sh.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 3. dt-sited.xml ->
> How
> > >> is
> > >> > > this
> > >> > > > > file
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > different
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dt-site.xml?
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Not
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > sure
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > if
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > adding in /etc/skel
> > >> would
> > >> > > help.
> > >> > > > > > > Files &
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > Dirs
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > from
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > /etc/skel
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> are
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > copied
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > home of new user
> when
> > >> > useradd
> > >> > > > > > program
> > >> > > > > > > >>> is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> called.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > But
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> existing
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > users
> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > this won't be of any
> > >> use.
> > >> > > > > Moreover,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> dtcli
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