On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Aaron Bannert wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:15:43PM -0400, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > Just to clarify, by "we" I meant the voting majority of the APR PMC > > > (aparently only with the approval of the board), not the whims of > > > the casual contributor. If this is indeed a paradigm shift, then I'm > > > suggesting that we reexamine the charter. > > > > I'll tell you right now that I will strenuosly object to making APR the > > kitchen sink of Apache libraries. We are a portability project, which is > > all the library was when I wrote it, and all I wish the project to be. If > > you want a library project, then create a new PMC please. I don't believe > > that you can create such a charter that is well defined enough to be > > useful. > > Woah woah... > > We should not add any new functionality into APR that does not have > an immediate use. I think we all agree on that. Serf may have slipped > through the cracks, but El-kabong is not immune to that scrutiny. > > I'm also saying that apr-util seems to have broken the charter, in a very > subtle way. On the one hand, the types of things we have in there are > Incredibly Useful. However, it seems that the pieces are only useful for > very specific applications. El-Kabong is useful (although not immediately > necessary) in the same sense as apr-util. I'm just saying we can't have > it both ways.
The argument for apr-util is that we are providing the same benefits as other portability libraries. That argument can't be made for either apr-serf or el-kabong. Therefore those two libraries should not be under the APR project. If you can find an actual portability run-time that includes the functionality in apr-serf or el-kabong, then cool we can disucss adding those to the APR project. But, I don't believe you will be able to find one. Ryan _______________________________________________________________________________ Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 Jean St Oakland CA 94610 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
