Hi Bob,

oh I see I gave the wrong link to the Undo issue, it is:
http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1834

I know of the dependency of undo from euml. But if we really want to wait with 
undo until we move to euml, then the above issue has to be made dependent from 
an appropriate euml issue. I already proposed to do that step without 
introducing UML2 features, but I have not enough knowledge if it is possible to 
do that and thus get from the GSOC result to a stable euml ArgoUML. Anyway, I 
would say: the massive voting for Undo urges us to really start working on that!

The problem with ArgoUML is, that we make releases without considering enough 
the users wishes. And votes are all we have to measure them. Having not enough 
developer resources is not an excuse for doing other things than requested, 
otherwise we should declare ArgoUML an internal tool for some hobbyists that by 
accident is freely downloadable.

Thomas

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> Datum: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:40:57 +0200
> Von: "Bob Tarling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [argouml-dev] commitment for 0.28 features

> This needs some balance between how serious we are in moving toward
> eclipse RCP.
> 
> Why continue with our own Undo framework when that would be provided
> by RCP. I'd hate to do lots of needless work that will just be thrown
> away.
> 
> Even if we did continue with our undo implementation it would be
> dependant on eUML being complete I think.
> 
> I'd like to make sure we do concentrate on seq diagrams but that does
> not have to what for a full release. It could be just a module
> release.
> 
> Personally I think it is just a little too early to discuss these
> plans in detail now. I'd like to wait till we have a dev wiki so that
> we can start to build pages to agree designs for future. We can then
> discuss what of those designs we would like to see soonest taking into
> account both user votes and technical constraints.
> 
> The wiki will hopefully make that process a lot easier than bouncing
> emails around.
> 
> Bob.
> 
> On 04/09/2008, Thomas N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > let's agree on the plan for 0.28 as early as possible, because 0.26
> lacks of many important things.
> >
> > First, as we always encourage users to vote for issues, let's get
> serious here and put the issues with the most votes on highest priority! These
> are: Undo, distributed models, and movable labels of edges in diagrams.
> Furthermore, we have a better sequence diagram implementation that is in need 
> of
> a migration path from the current seq diagram impl.
> >
> > So, I propose to plan the next release to be released in a reasonable
> short time (in great contrast to 0.26), with the following features:
> >
> > - Implement Undo, see
> http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3497
> > - Distributed models, see
> http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3497
> > - Positioning of text labels attached to fig lines, see
> http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1048
> > - New sequence diagram implementation, e.g. see
> http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5030
> >
> > Of course, anyone is free to add more into the unstable 0.27.* releases,
> but these four items should form a set of more organized subprojects, with
> assigned team members and a better public communication (e.g. dev wiki).
> >
> > What do you think? You might argue about the exact set of features, but
> will this approach bring ArgoUML to the next level?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Thomas
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