Hello Ran,
I as an observer am quite fine with having digests or transcripts from
Slack appear in the mailing list.
As far as I understand, Slack is reserved to people with Apache ID, so
getting the conversation onto the mailing list would be good.
Best regards,
Matej
Ran Ziv je 21.5.2017 ob 14:03 napisal:
Matej, John etc. - The issue we keep coming back to, and the reason we try
to avoid emails, is that discussions on emails are simply much slower than
ones on Slack.
John, regarding summarizing slack conversations on the mailing list
manually - that's possible, but then I feel like we might be getting the
worst of both worlds - someone would have to spend the time summarizing the
conversation, plus it would not be as complete as it would have been had it
been copied in its entirety (or, alternatively, have taken place entirely
over the mailing list). I personally think the bot - assuming we can
improve its format somewhat - is actually more useful in that regard, even
when excluding the work one would have to do to summarize the conversation.
Arthur (and also Tal, who suggested it on Slack) - I'm very much against
moving specifically the daily updates to the mailing list, keeping
everything else on Slack. IMO it makes sense to do it exactly the other way
around. The updates are about things which are in progress, and are much
less relevant to the mailing list than actual discussions and announcements
over completed features etc.
We need to find the right balance between the overhead the mailing list
incurs and the need to have everything logged on the list - and IMO the bot
is the best solution at this time.
However, John, if you think otherwise, even after taking into consideration
what I've mentioned above, then let us know what other flow you suggest
exactly, and we'll follow that instead.
Ran
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Matej Artač <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear all,
I like this proposal. I am an outsider who is interested in the activities
and progress of your project. It would be really great for me if this
mailing list would contain what John suggests. I think it would greatly
improve visibility into your project and likely provide a grounds for some
additional discussion and comments from a larger community.
Best regards,
Matej
John D. Ament je 15.5.2017 ob 16:12 napisal:
No, and that's sort of the issue at hand here. I've requested these
mailing list changes because the dev@ traffic is typically github or JIRA
chatter. We have no on list discussions. I'm basically trying to force
you guys to actually talk to one another via email, since our other
attempts have not worked out well.
I would expect that Slack discussions are summarized here by those
participating in them. Not automatically.
John
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:00 PM Arthur Berezin <[email protected]>
wrote:
I missed the Slack chat, but sounds good +1. Is there an easy way to get a
digest of the slack chat over dev mailing list?
On Tue, May 9, 2017, 21:43 John D. Ament <[email protected]> wrote:
All,
Based on a brief chat on Slack, I'm going to go ahead and create two new
mailing lists:
- commits@
- issues@
The reason being, the dev list is designed for developer discussions,
but
most of the banter is on JIRA issues or GitHub PRs/commits. To
effectively
measure the community openness we need to separate the types.
All changes in a JIRA issue will be sent to issues@ and all commits
will
go
to commits@.
John
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Member, OASIS TOSCA Standard Technical Committee
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