It occurs that it might be useful to be able to tag service templates with arbitrary meta-data. Perhaps at one level carried forward from a CSAR manifest, but also user definable. This would allow inter-service references to be definitive, if desired. This could be implicitly defined as a capability by the orchestrator, but some kind of special requirement type(s) would be needed to utilize it. This way, external repos could be used safely and directly without the separate load step.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Tal Liron <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the kudos. :) > > This topic was discussed on this list a while ago. It's indeed tricky to > get right, because TOSCA leaves a lot of room for the orchestrator to > implement. > > I'm thinking of it working something like this: > > 1. The reqs-and-caps engine by default will always look for satisfiable > capabilities within the currently instantiated service. HOWEVER, if such a > capability is not present, the option is there to look for another > instantiated service that exposes the capabilities in substitution > mappings. > > 2. If we DON'T have another instantiated service, but DO have a service > template that could fit the bill, perhaps we need to instantiate that other > service first. One obvious option is to do this automatically. But I feel > like this can create unforeseen consequences -- for example, some dummy > test template that someone happened to have in the database might get > instantiated by mistake. Also, it might need to trigger multiple install > workflows at once... a big mess. So I suggest that instead we provide a > very detailed validation error here saying that the requirement cannot be > satisfied, HOWEVER there exist service templates A, B, and C that can > substitute for us, so maybe the nice user would like to instantiate them > first? This seems very reasonable to me. > > 3. If indeed another service satisfies this, a special node is added to the > current service (with the correct type -- but without a service template > foreign key), which serves as a proxy of the other service template. I'm > not sure how we would mark this exactly. We can't use the service_fk field, > because it's still in our current service. So perhaps there's need of a new > fk field, maybe substituted_service_fk? > > The above might be "sensible defaults," but it seems to me that users > really need control over this. So I propose to add a new aria.Composition > policy that would let you provide hints for this mechanism. For example, > you might want to "filter" the target service by service template name and > even by metadata in the service template. For example, you might want to > require version 1.2.2 of a specific service, no less. > > Those are some quick thoughts. Exactly how such a policy would look with > require more thought... > > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Avia Efrat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I'm starting to work on a full implementation of substitution_mapping, > > which will lead to the ability of service composition. > > > > For those unacquainted with substitution mapping, here are some quick > > resources: > > *From the spec > > <http://docs.oasis-open.org/tosca/TOSCA-Simple-Profile- > > YAML/v1.0/TOSCA-Simple-Profile-YAML-v1.0.html>, > > sections:* > > 2.10 > > <http://docs.oasis-open.org/tosca/TOSCA-Simple-Profile- > > YAML/v1.0/os/TOSCA-Simple-Profile-YAML-v1.0-os.html#_Toc471725208>, > > 2.11 > > <http://docs.oasis-open.org/tosca/TOSCA-Simple-Profile- > > YAML/v1.0/os/TOSCA-Simple-Profile-YAML-v1.0-os.html#_Toc471725209> > > (theory and examples) > > 3.8.1, 3.8.2 (grammar) > > *From Tal's amazing lecture on TOSCA > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xGmpi--7-A>:* > > 00:00 until 12:30. > > > > If anyone wishes to: > > * ask questions regarding this feature > > * suggest real-life use cases > > * offer their insight about vague parts of the spec > > * anything else about substitution mapping and service composition > > Then please, feel encouraged to leave your feedback! > > >
