No problem, hopefully we can find a setup for logging going forward
that works for all of us...
I've committed the reverted code in r1239078.

Best regards,

David

On 1 February 2012 11:04, Graham Charters <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi David, thank you.  I can only apologise for not engaging earlier.
> I, and I think others, didn't appreciate the impact of the changes
> until recently.
>
> Regards, Graham.
>
> On 1 February 2012 10:46, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Can't we simply do something in aries until that would be shared by
>> all aries modules (since they kinda all depend on it already) ?
>> A very small api that could be configured to either use slf4j, jul or
>> osgi logging ?  Using optional imports, it should limit to what's
>> available and default to a good one, falling back to jul if nothing
>> else.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:26, David Bosschaert
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> On 1 February 2012 09:58, Graham Charters <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> Prior to these changes, Apache Aries had the ability to filter logging
>>>> per class, and this was consistent across all Aries modules.
>>>
>>> Well apparently not because the Aries JMX component used the
>>> LogService already...
>>>
>>>> I don't
>>>> think we should be doing piecemeal infrastructure dependency changes
>>>> like these without a proper consideration.
>>>
>>> Well, you can see at the beginning of this thread (Jan 16) that I'm
>>> asking for opinions re removing to the LogService and that the
>>> responses where positive...
>>>
>>>> Although nobody really wants to have a logging conversation, I don't
>>>> think we can avoid one, and until then, I think we need to go back to
>>>> the consistent approach that, until now, Aries consumers seemed happy
>>>> with.
>>>
>>> ... sigh ... ok we'll have a logging discussion and I'll revert those
>>> changes for the moment.
>>>
>>> @David J: we can explore the capabilities of the log service in that 
>>> discussion.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>
>>
>>
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