It seems that using Rcpp is fine because an R library for Arrow is an
optional component of the project, but will await more opinions on
LEGAL-324.

+ Felix Cheung -- I wonder if you could comment further on your
concerns about licensing of R build dependencies, which were mentioned
elsewhere.

Thanks

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I started a discussion explaining the issue here:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-324
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for weighing in on this, Hadley.
>>
>> To your point
>>
>>> You can distribute the package code according to its
>>> license, but whenever you bundle it with R (i.e. to actually use it)
>>> the GPL will apply to the whole conglomerate.
>>
>> If someone wanted to create an all-GPLv2 software distribution
>> containing R and a bunch of libraries, then including the R Arrow
>> library would be problematic as Apache 2.0 is not compatible
>> (https://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html). I don't
>> think this is really a problem since R users generally just install
>> things from CRAN.
>>
>> My understanding is that ASF legal has taken issue when an Apache
>> project _cannot be used at all_ without a hard GPL dependency (outside
>> certain exceptions, e.g. generated build files by GPL tools). This
>> makes it impossible to create a self-contained software distribution
>> of the project whose code and all dependencies are Apache 2.0
>> compatible. There was the recent BSD+Patents discussion on LEGAL where
>> projects were disallowed from using projects under that license as a
>> hard dependency.
>>
>> I will open a LEGAL issue on the JIRA to discuss, but since the R
>> portion of Arrow is an _optional_ part of the project, I am hopeful
>> this will be deemed OK.
>>
>> - Wes
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Hadley Wickham <h.wick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I can open a ticket to get a definitive answer to these questions.
>>>>
>>>> From http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#platform and the
>>>> subsequent questions there, I view the R language and build tools like
>>>> Rcpp as part of the "R platform", which is, for the most part, all
>>>> GPL. SparkR depends on R, but only has testthat (MIT) as a dependency
>>>> beyond the R runtime. I think it is challenging to build high quality
>>>> software for the R platform relying only on the main R runtime and the
>>>> limited third party components which happens to be released under
>>>> non-CategoryX licenses.
>>>
>>> Some legal advice is probably needed, but do also see this statement
>>> from the R Foundation about package licenses:
>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2009-May/053248.html
>>>
>>> In general, the R community has taken the opinion that it is ok to
>>> license code that links to R with non-GPL (but GPL-compatible)
>>> licenses. You can distribute the package code according to its
>>> license, but whenever you bundle it with R (i.e. to actually use it)
>>> the GPL will apply to the whole conglomerate.
>>>
>>> So including an R arrow package would be fine according to the general
>>> standards of the R community. The Apache legal counsel may of course
>>> disagree.
>>>
>>> Hadley
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://hadley.nz

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