Hi

It seems that we should re-evaluate the estimate.

Regards
JB

On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 11:02 PM Clebert Suconic
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are we currently underestimating the size of AMQP messages? If so,
> > what exactly was underestimated?
>
>
> If you sent a Core message with ./artemis producer --message-count=1
> --protocol=AMQP
>
> The address size of that message will be 642 bytes (from the estimate)
>
> If you send a Core Message with ./artemis producer --message-count=1
> --protocol=CORE
>
> The estimate from CORE is using 1121
>
>
> I believe we need to raise the offset on the AMQP message, raising the 
> minimal.
>
> By pegging I mean.. the broker's performance starts to crawl, using a
> lot of time on GC.. and it may eventually OME. It eventually starts to
> Page but at that point things are really bad already.
>
>
>
> There's another change I have beeen wanting to do, that is to keep the
> estimate static... and I want to do it as part of 2.54.0 as I'm not
> holding 2.53 for this.
>
>
> >
> > When you say "pegging" are you talking about CPU utilization? If so,
> > what is consuming all the CPU? Garbage collection?
> >
> > If folks potentially need to adjust their paging config we'll need to
> > guide them on how to do it in the docs.
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 2:13 PM Clebert Suconic
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > As I was "playing" with my changes on Shell, I stumbled on an issue.
> > >
> > >
> > > As I sent millions of messages, Core Messages will trigger paging a lot 
> > > sooner.
> > > While AMQP Messages will trigger it much later, but the broker starts
> > > pegging and decreases the performance quite a lot.
> > >
> > >
> > > I played with some adjusting on the estimates, and I will fix it on
> > > the next release (2.54.. not 2.53)..
> > >
> > > Users will have to readjust their estimates though...
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
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