Hello All! JAF> I'm just a lowly user One more lowly user here :-)
JAF> I've started putting together an SF project of my own for more "generic" JAF> Avalon components and I know others have mentioned doing the same. JAF> This trend concerns me a little since it scatters the developer community JAF> and makes finding all these components and projects harder. Exactly the same impressions. To give my personal feelings - I feel sort of scared (that it will require too much effort) to look into numerous (as they seem to me) SF hosted solutions for Avalon. Here and there I see mentionings of some Jetty or HSQLDB avalon wrapper hosted somewhere on the SF, Berin has mentioned he is maintaining his Swing-Avalon framework somewhere at http://d-haven.org/guiapp he would not refuse to get help with, ... I'm personally creating now some avalonish maveric-like servlet sub-framework, keeping in mind that one day it could also go outdoors.. So, on the one hand it looks a nice idea to gather a handfull of avalon based stuff in something like the sandbox. It could be a bit like SF, but with the avalon PMC members keeping an eye on maintaining duplication at a reasonable level and also organizing the projects in a hierarchy (example: * Jetty integrations stuff * HSQLDB integration stuff * avalon-container-in-a-servlet frameworks * Swing integration, etc. ) Given this is all in one place people will probably start investging less effort in creating duplicating projects but into collaboration. Avalon endoursment of any project (allowing it to be hosted in their cvs) will largerly promote such project and attract attention to it. Sure it will be a honour to be hosted there. I hope this will result in each category of the above sample classification to have no more then 3-4 frameworks. (It's the intent, or the whole thing may loose sense.) On the other hand, apache cvs probably can't host everything like SF's one, can it? WBR, Anton P.S. One example could be Cocoon - * it's not Excalibur (not a toolkit for building avalon containers), * it's not Cornerstone (not a coarse grained block-like deployment units for Phoenix-like environments) * it's not Avalon-apps (not a standalone application, or would it be an Avalon-app if it was to be classified along these lines?) And Cocoon used to be quite small when it was just started. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
