Paolo wrote:
> The most
> negative jumps of these threads seem to be related to the way any remark
> is taken more than to the way they are made - that is why aggression
> tends to escalate mostly on the reactions.

I partly disagree with your statement. Form of delivery of criticism is
important.

> People just tend to be over-defensive about their baby-project or
> baby-ideas. And then they tend to take any remark as personal and don't
> notice that it is just a debate of ideas.

He/she who has not "killed his butterflies" before, will always tender for
their pet project in over-protective ways. The ability to throw away
something you have worked hard on is not common, but IMHO very valued.

> IMHO it is more positive to focus on developing thicker skins than on
> transforming the Apache mailing lists on the stage of heavy diplomatic
> exercises.

100% agree here.
But looking at Stephen's replies, one could argue that he has thick skin,
just deliver his facts/arguments in a machine gun manner, which is then
not perceived well at the other end. Noone is wrong, still it gets a bit
heated.

I like the Cocoon list. Heated debate, sometimes harsh tones and
borderline of personal attacks, and then "Sorry if you took it that way. I
didn't mean to upset you." remarkably well smooths things over. The
community there is much stronger and thriving in "technical issues"
differencess.

Berin always tries to separate the "technical issues" from "technical
skill" from "community skills", yet it doesn't go down that well in
Avalon-space. Why is that?

Could it be that not enough developers are involved in each piece, not
enough people work across the container borders that exists today?? I
think so. The code is not bad enough, as Stefano would say, it doesn't
itch enough people outside the initial developer(s).



Cheers
Niclas




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