Leo Sutic wrote:
From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Calling for a vote is about the least productive thing you could do to get consensus.
I've done that many times in order to force *a* decision either way. It is a great way to say "OK, we've fired off
our best arguments, let's put the issue to the team."
Forcing a decision when all of the cards are on the table and the choices are valid is ok. This is forcing a decision without a solution and introducing a fracture into whatever we do from here. We have lived with the ECM Phoenix divide for long enough - do we really have to do for divsion again and again? Forcing a vote at this time is a blunder of major proportion. The questions are important - the issue need to resolved. I've already explain that we need to either complete things properly or abstract ourselves.
I will consider it totally invalid and I certainly will not feel bound by any outcome.
So does that mean we can ignore your votes, vetoes and so on as we see fit from now on?
Feel free to do whatever you want.
There is simply insufficient understanding of this implications
of the options that Berin put forward to call a vote at this time. I cannot support or endorce a process that that I know is faulted
in motivation and technical argument.
Stephen, the votes aren't something you can choose to ignore when and as you see fit. If a vote is completely invalid, then nobody will vote, or everyone will vote -1. Right now there are people voting +1. That in itself makes it valid.
Yes - there are people voting +1.
Do they understand what they are voting for? My guess is that they will assume the very simplistic line from Berin that this is about a namespace. They will not take into account the ramifications. They probably will not appreciate that this is a divisive point in terms of the avalon component model. They will probably not appreciate that it introduces a separation at the core of Avalon and from that separation there will eternally be those that do and those that don't.
Steve.
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