Stephen McConnell wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
- I hope to have figured out how to integrate gump and the new package in avalon-sandbox/framework; we'll see if it works tonight

http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/avalon-framework-sandbox.html


seems to be working.

- the new package does not generate a combined avalon-framework.jar.

I belive that the idea of generating a combined avalon-framework-<version>.jar file should *only* be done for legacy gump builds.

I disagree. I find the combined jar useful. As do countless other people. Back when we first discussed api/impl seperation it was agreed that we would also support a combined version.


Oh, and there is no such thing as "legacy gump". Gump is the latest-and-greatest-of-everything, by definition. If anything, the fact that many gump projects depend on the combined jar rather than the api and/or impl jar is an indication that the jar is still needed and in common use.

Lets disucss some more the rationale for doing this. My point is that it is (a) not needed, and (b) a negative value proposition.

my point is that it is


(a) pragmatic
(b) needed in applications that import the 'avalon-framework' logical extension package and expect to find both api and impl
(c) we've been over this before and decided it was a good idea; nothing significant has changed since then so it is pointless to revisit old arguments
(d) needed (see above)


cheers,

- Leo



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