On Wednesday 12 November 2003 17:32, Stephen McConnell wrote:
> Niclas Hedhman wrote:

> >LGPL is probably compatible with ASL, BUT ASF has said NO on being
> > involved, I think largely due to unclarities of what the license actually
> > demands from Apache _users_, more than ASF itself !!
>
> This is a point that I didn't think about earlier. Just to absolutely
> clear - in the case of the Hibernate Component - at is using LGPL it is
> subject to the LGPL by viral virtue - hense the requirement to license
> the Hibernate Component under the LGPL and not under ASL.  Therefore the
> requirement is created for a place to put this LGPL Hibernate Component
> outside of ASF space pending an explicit release of the viral
> association by the licensor.  However - this means that anything using
> the LPGL Hibernate Component is by default pushed out as well.  Ummm, I
> starting to understand the religous impliciations and the reason for
> zero-tolerance on LGPL.

Confusing, isn't it??

For us, I think it is just a matter of accepting the decision. Those guys have 
argued over this for months, I'm sure...

Your conclusion is probably correct, the Hibernate component need to isolate 
itself from Apache source. The best would be that Hibernate published a set 
of interfaces under BSD-style, and we could compile/distribute against those 
interfaces, and the end-users download from Hibernate.

If that is not acheivable, I don't see any other choice than an SF-based 
sidearm of the ASF-based one. I think it could be doable...

Niclas



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