On Sunday 08 August 2004 01:29, Alexis Agahi wrote:

> IMO you should split telnet/ssh facility from console shell.
> One should be able to run the shell from command line (without having
> remote connection).

sorry, I gently disagree... Having a network socket is so much more natural, 
then trying to 'redirect Merlin output' elsewhere, get hold of System.in and 
be limited to a single user. Also doesn't help me much in background ops.

telnet localhost <port>  is IMO, the most natural way to deal with this;

 *  SSH tunnelling is possible, to secure the connection.
 *  Can combine that with a "allow"/"deny" feature for incoming connections, 
to 'force' secure transport.

As for HTTP access, I am sorry to say that people are 'nuts' in respect to 
http. 
  IP = stateless
  TCP = stateful
  HTTP = stateless
  MyStuff = stateful

so why on earth go through this state-emulation once more?
If the port80 is the issue, then do a SSH tunnel over port80... voila!

Don't expect me to add anything in this area, as I find it a stupid way to do 
things.

> This remind me that we should (maybe I'm completly offtopic) think about
> having user management/JAAS service to manage user authentification ? :)

It is somewhat related, since I can imagine that a Merlin instance is used by 
a bunch of developers, each only authorized to some containers, and perhaps 
only to certain operations. So yes, it is related... But instead of digging 
into this at the moment, I decided to get something running quickly, as I 
have an immediate need.


Cheers
Niclas

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