Niclas Hedhman wrote:

> On Sunday 08 August 2004 01:29, Alexis Agahi wrote:
> 
>> IMO you should split telnet/ssh facility from console shell.
>> One should be able to run the shell from command line (without having
>> remote connection).
> 
> sorry, I gently disagree...

As long as it is gently ;)

> Having a network socket is so much more 
> natural, then trying to 'redirect Merlin output' elsewhere, get hold of
> System.in and be limited to a single user. Also doesn't help me much in
> background ops.

I was just trying to suggest an unix architure (inetd, telnetd, shell, tty,
syslog).


> telnet localhost <port>  is IMO, the most natural way to deal with this;
> 
>  *  SSH tunnelling is possible, to secure the connection.
>  *  Can combine that with a "allow"/"deny" feature for incoming
>  connections,
> to 'force' secure transport.
> 
> As for HTTP access, I am sorry to say that people are 'nuts' in respect to
> http.
>   IP = stateless
>   TCP = stateful
>   HTTP = stateless
>   MyStuff = stateful
> so why on earth go through this state-emulation once more?
> If the port80 is the issue, then do a SSH tunnel over port80... voila!

sometime tunnelling over 80 is not possible (especially with transparent
proxy breaking the stream)

> Don't expect me to add anything in this area, as I find it a stupid way to
> do things.

np


> It is somewhat related, since I can imagine that a Merlin instance is used
> by a bunch of developers, each only authorized to some containers, and
> perhaps only to certain operations. So yes, it is related... But instead
> of digging into this at the moment, I decided to get something running
> quickly, as I have an immediate need.

np

--
Al

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