There are so many untruths in this email I don't know where to begin.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> it demonstrates in a quasi natural evolution of communities though
> a process of division. And yet in the case of Avalon - the natural
> division has been interfered with by a member of the Board of Directors
> of the Apache Software Foundation that has a stated objective of killing
> the project

This is blatantly not true.

No one has a stated objective of killing the project.  Drop the conspiracy
theory.  While you really didn't understand it, Stefano was your best friend
and ally on the Board.  He was honestly working to give Metro a chance.  But
you never trusted him.  Your loss.

There was certainly much resistance to a Metro TLP and I tried very hard for
many months to help all parties see why natural division of Avalon was a
proper course of action.  This was argued in the PMC and before the Board.
But there were very few proponents.  The reasons are varied and there's no
point in going into it all now.  But it is certainly NOT as simple as you
are explaining.  In reality, the time for separation was two years ago when
Avalon became a TLP.

So I agree with you Stephen that we should have allowed for the natural
division of Avalon.  But you were as much of a roadblock to that as anyone
else.

> On the point of procedure - the Board of Director may choose to close
> down Avalon.  The point of interest concerns their justification for
> this action.  At this time there has been no community decision to do
> this (just attacks on individual contributors - largely on private list
> to the benefit of Members).

First off, it's not up to the community, it's up to the Board.  The Board
has sole responsibility and authority when it comes to closing down
projects.  Of course, they will listen to the community and PMC, but in the
end it's their decision.

In this case, the Board made requests of the Avalon PMC and the PMC is no
longer able to comply.  Therefore, the Avalon PMC should be dismantled.

>  At the level of the PMC there have been no
> decisions on this point (largely a function of the fact that all the
> primary committers have left the PMC in disgust or frustration to the
> continued intervention of Apache Members and hove chosen to continue
> outside of the foundation).

There was a decision.  It was a recommendation to the Board to close the
project.

> There is noting in what I have said that suggests anyone is wrong.  I
> have suggested that Stefano's actions are not necessarily in-line with
> the stated objectives of the foundation - but that's an issue for the
> Apache Board of Directors. I have also suggested that Aaron is in a bad
> position and I've attempted to point out to him that he could easily be
> pushed into a context where he is be used and the bunny to take the
> fall. On that point I'm uncomfortable because I was one of the people to
> nominate Aaron to the job he's now holding - and nothing you can say
> will remove that fact that Aaron is being screwed good and proper by
> this organization.

Can I say something since I'm the one you say is being made into a "bunny"?

I certainly don't feel I'm being "screwed good and proper by this
organization."  If anything, I feel I have received a tremendous amount of
support, especially by the Board, in my efforts here.  So, please, don't
insult me or my intelligence by claiming I'm simply a pawn of those you
believe are after you.

> Stefano - ball is in your court.

No Stephen, the ball is gone.  The game is over.

jaaron

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