Thanks, Bertil. I have signed off.

I agree that retirement is one option we should be considering. Retirement is 
not the end of a project, just a change in governance. Let’s start that 
discussion as soon as possible. I don’t want this still hanging over our heads 
when the next quarterly report is filed.

Julian


> On Dec 5, 2025, at 9:25 AM, Bertil Chapuis <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Julian,
> 
> Thank you for the reminder. Apologies, I've been busy and missed the 
> deadline. I submitted a short report that reflects the limited activity on 
> the project.
> 
> The past few months have confirmed our difficulty in building a sustainable 
> community with active contributors. I'll start a discussion about the 
> project's future in January. As we've been struggling to get enough votes for 
> releases, it may make sense to retire it from the incubator and move it back 
> to its original organization, where a faster and lighter release process may 
> help.
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2025#baremaps
> 
> Thanks a lot for your help,
> 
> Bertil Chapuis
> 
> 
>> On 4 Dec 2025, at 20:52, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s a day after the submission deadline, and there is no report in the 
>> wiki. Do we want to submit a report this quarter? If you write something 
>> within 24 - 48 hours and mail this list, I’ll sign off.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2025, at 5:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
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>>> 
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