+1 for automating the process of checking for possible version bumps.

Also, what do you think about pinning dependencies to exact versions
(instead of ranges) after cutting a release branch ? This should improve
the stability of released SDKs (but not a prefect solution since transitive
dependencies can still change).

Thanks,
Cham

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:19 PM Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am also in favor of pinning as an immediate fix, bumping the bound
>> >> otherwise.
>> >>
>> >> Regarding putting an upper bound to avoid being broken, the last two
>> >> breaks have been due to just having an (unneeded) upper bound (which
>> >> held us back to broken/incompatible releases in relationship to other
>> >> dependencies). We should try to trust semantic versioning when
>> >> possible, and when not we must regularly audit.
>> >
>> > +1 to this, especially the auditing part. We also had breaks because we
>> > trusted semantic versioning. So far our semi-official policy was to
>> trust a
>> > package until they prove it otherwise. I will argue that grpc here is
>> making
>> > a breaking change in a minor version increment by changing the way they
>> are
>> > depending on a major package.
>>
>> A minor version bump should be allowed to require a minor version bump
>> in its dependencies.
>>
>> > We have done a good job of auditing and updating those pinned (or upper
>> > bounded) dependencies, and probably we are behind in some of those.
>> >
>> > I wonder if we can automate some of this? If we can get a report, that
>> > audits our dependencies, warns us about new releases and potential
>> conflicts
>> > it would be much easier to keep things up to date.
>>
>> Big +1, it should be easy to set up a nightly that relaxes some of the
>> requirements and sees what (if anything) breaks. Not breaking is
>> likely a signal that we should relax ours.
>>
>
> Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3363 to track this. I
> think it would be awesome if we can tackle this as part of a better
> infrastructure for testing work.
>
>
>>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Chamikara Jayalath (JIRA)
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >     [
>> >> >
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3357?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16293276#comment-16293276
>> >> > ]
>> >> >
>> >> > Chamikara Jayalath commented on BEAM-3357:
>> >> > ------------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> > You mean we could bump up the upper bound ? I think we should keep
>> some
>> >> > upper bound in case we get badly broken by a future protobuf release.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Python SDK head fails to run tests due to
>> >> >> Requirement.parse('protobuf<=3.4.0,>=3.2.0')
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >>                 Key: BEAM-3357
>> >> >>                 URL:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3357
>> >> >>             Project: Beam
>> >> >>          Issue Type: Bug
>> >> >>          Components: sdk-py-core
>> >> >>            Reporter: Chamikara Jayalath
>> >> >>            Priority: Critical
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Error is:
>> >> >> running build_ext
>> >> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> >> >>   File "setup.py", line 202, in <module>
>> >> >>     'test': generate_protos_first(test),
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/Users/chamikara/testing/test_py_12_14_2017_2/env_proto_3.4/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/__init__.py",
>> >> >> line 129, in setup
>> >> >>     return distutils.core.setup(**attrs)
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/distutils/core.py",
>> >> >> line 151, in setup
>> >> >>     dist.run_commands()
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py",
>> >> >> line 953, in run_commands
>> >> >>     self.run_command(cmd)
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py",
>> >> >> line 972, in run_command
>> >> >>     cmd_obj.run()
>> >> >>   File "setup.py", line 142, in run
>> >> >>     super(cmd, self).run()
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/Users/chamikara/testing/test_py_12_14_2017_2/env_proto_3.4/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/test.py",
>> >> >> line 225, in run
>> >> >>     with self.project_on_sys_path():
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/contextlib.py",
>> >> >> line 17, in __enter__
>> >> >>     return self.gen.next()
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/Users/chamikara/testing/test_py_12_14_2017_2/env_proto_3.4/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/test.py",
>> >> >> line 164, in project_on_sys_path
>> >> >>     require('%s==%s' % (ei_cmd.egg_name, ei_cmd.egg_version))
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/Users/chamikara/testing/test_py_12_14_2017_2/env_proto_3.4/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py",
>> >> >> line 984, in require
>> >> >>     needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> "/Users/chamikara/testing/test_py_12_14_2017_2/env_proto_3.4/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py",
>> >> >> line 875, in resolve
>> >> >>     raise VersionConflict(dist, req).with_context(dependent_req)
>> >> >> pkg_resources.ContextualVersionConflict: (protobuf 3.5.0.post1
>> >> >>
>> (/Users/chamikara/testing/test_py_12_14_2017_2/beam/sdks/python/.eggs/protobuf-3.5.0.post1-py2.7.egg),
>> >> >> Requirement.parse('protobuf<=3.4.0,>=3.2.0'), set(['apache-beam']))
>> >> >> Seems like grpcio did a release today which is breaking us:
>> >> >> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/grpcio/1.8.1
>> >> >> We have to either bump our protobuf dependency or reduce the upper
>> >> >> bound of grpcio dependency to previous release (1.7.3).
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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