I think the thing is just that you can point a user env at it to test like
a user. Like you can do this with
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebeam-1030/ but
not https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/beam/2.4.0/

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 5:03 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:

> I do not know what is the best practice. For practical purposes it makes
> sense to stage to the same svn repo, so that we can test it as part of the
> release process.
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, we should. There's a bit of an open question of where these release
>> artifacts should be staged. (Eventually, of course, they'll be published to
>> PyPi). Should they be placed alongside the source artifacts in the svn
>> repository?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:00 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are we planning to do this for the 2.4.0 release? I am asking, because
>>> they were not part of RC1 artifacts.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Nima Mousavi <nima.mous...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Related question:
>>>> >
>>>> > How can we tell if the docker image of our binary contains the cython
>>>> > optimized beam or the slower codepath?
>>>> > The image was built on Google cloud (using gcloud container builds
>>>> submit).
>>>>
>>>> There are certain modules (corresponding to the pyx files) that are
>>>> only built if Cython is present. We can (1) make sure Cython is
>>>> installed before installing apache beam into the container, and (2)
>>>> assert as part of the build process that these modules exist.
>>>>
>>>> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:32 PM, Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> +1 to wheels. The main effort for this would be updating the release
>>>> >> guide, and adding support for other platforms in Jenkins for
>>>> building and
>>>> >> testing wheels.  In light of this, maybe we can prioritize having
>>>> test
>>>> >> infrastructure for other platforms.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> +1 for wheels, they are the standard binary distribution format so
>>>> it
>>>> >>> makes sense. Also wheels support packaging python 2 and 3 on
>>>> universal
>>>> >>> packages so they are future proof.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Robert Bradshaw <
>>>> rober...@google.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>> > +1, is it too late to try to release these as part of the 2.3
>>>> release
>>>> >>> > (to get familiar with the process, no code changes should be
>>>> needed)?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It would be nice to have this for the current release. How can we
>>>> build
>>>> >> and test these binaries? I think it will be prudent to waIt until we
>>>> have
>>>> >> infrastructure.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > The wheels are advantageous when running locally (e.g. during
>>>> testing
>>>> >>> > and development) where requiring containers will probably be
>>>> overkill.
>>>> >>> > This will become especially relevant with the switch to use the
>>>> >>> > FnApiRunner.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> If we want all our code related to pipeline execution to be in a
>>>> >>> >> container,
>>>> >>> >> what value does building wheel distributions provide?
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com
>>>> >
>>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> +1
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Charles Chen <c...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>>
>>>> >>> >>>> Currently, Apache Beam distributes Python packages through pip
>>>> and
>>>> >>> >>>> PyPI.
>>>> >>> >>>> On PyPI, developers can release either source tarballs, and /
>>>> or
>>>> >>> >>>> precompiled
>>>> >>> >>>> "wheel" distributions for each platform, which would be used if
>>>> >>> >>>> available
>>>> >>> >>>> for a particular platform.  Currently, we only distribute the
>>>> source
>>>> >>> >>>> tarballs, so any user who installs Beam using "pip install
>>>> >>> >>>> apache_beam" has
>>>> >>> >>>> to have a compiler and toolchain installed to take advantage of
>>>> >>> >>>> Cython
>>>> >>> >>>> optimizations in Beam (which require compiled C code).  If
>>>> such a
>>>> >>> >>>> compiler
>>>> >>> >>>> is not available, Beam is currently configured to install
>>>> anyway,
>>>> >>> >>>> but will
>>>> >>> >>>> use slower Python codepaths instead of the more optimized ones
>>>> (for
>>>> >>> >>>> example,
>>>> >>> >>>> for Coder encoding / decoding).
>>>> >>> >>>>
>>>> >>> >>>> I would like to propose that we start distributing binary wheel
>>>> >>> >>>> distributions for our releases, for common platforms like
>>>> Windows /
>>>> >>> >>>> Mac /
>>>> >>> >>>> Linux.  We could potentially use a method similar to this one
>>>> >>> >>>> (https://github.com/MacPython/cython-wheels) for building
>>>> these
>>>> >>> >>>> wheel
>>>> >>> >>>> distributions.  Thoughts?
>>>> >>> >>>>
>>>> >>> >>>> Best,
>>>> >>> >>>> Charles
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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