I'm not super familiar with JSON-B. The JIRA makes it sound like using
slf4j instead of JUL directly. In the logging case it is a clear win. In
this case I do have some questions:

 - How do users interact with JSON-B?
 - Is it really just a facade/API? The site makes it look like yet another
JSON library.
 - What are the reasons we do not shade Jackson?
 - What is the scope of change to Beam?

I'll leave off the shading discussion since we already had one. You can
continue this one:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/12383d2e5d70026427df43294e30d6524334e16f03d86c9a5860792f@%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
or work on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3608 and similar to
improve things. Should be very easy now. I didn't work on it because work
on poms is throwaway. Now is a good time to pick it up.

Kenn

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:10 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Currently Beam uses jackson, I opened BEAM-3992 to move to JSON-B since
> beam has no choice
> on the dependencies it uses by nature (it is embedded in an environment
> with its own stack) and I'd like to see the current workaround to shade the
> world to stop because it leads to way too big deliveries for what it does
> and it slows down builds for no end users gain.
>
> The move is straight forward for all clean code and shouldn't be a big
> deal for beam.
>
> I'm happy if somebody wants to take the lead on that and I'd be happy to
> support anyone new to JSON-B if needed.
>
> To be concrete (or give some rational), I already have some environment
> where jackson will be dropped in favor of existing alternative
> implementations and it enables to "submit" (run) a pipeline with one
> implementation and execute it in a cluster with another without having to
> duplicate and mess up the libs in both. This is critical to let ops handle
> vulnerabilities properly and without impacting the whole company ecosystem
> in a lot of cases.
>
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