Luke: the proposal here solves exactly what you are talking about. The problem you describe happens when the PR author uses autoformat but the baseline is not already autoformatted. What I am proposing is to make sure the baseline is already autoformatted, so PRs never have extraneous formatting changes.
Rafael: the default setting on GitHub is "allow edits by maintainers" so actually a committer can run spotless on behalf of a contributor and push the fixup. I have done this. It also lets a committer fix up a good PR and merge it even if the contributor is, say, asleep. Kenn On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Rafael Fernandez <rfern...@google.com> wrote: > Luke: Anything that helps contributors and reviewers work better together > - +1! :D > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:04 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote: > >> If spotless is run against a PR that is already well formatted its a >> non-issue as the formatting changes are usually related to the change but I >> have reviewed a few PRs that have 100s of lines of formatting change which >> really obfuscates the work. >> Instead of asking contributors to run spotless, can we have a cron job >> run it across the project like once a day/week/... and cut a PR? >> >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:07 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote: >> >>> Good points, Dan. Checkstyle will still run, but just focused on the >>> things that go beyond format. >>> >>> Kenn >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:03 AM Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 ! >>>> It's my custom to avoid reformatting to spare meaningless diff burden >>>> to the reviewer. Now it will be over, thanks. >>>> >>>> Etienne >>>> >>>> Le mardi 26 juin 2018 à 21:15 -0700, Kenneth Knowles a écrit : >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I like readable code, but I don't like formatting it myself. And I >>>> _really_ don't like discussing in code review. "Spotless" [1] can enforce - >>>> and automatically apply - automatic formatting for Java, Groovy, and some >>>> others. >>>> >>>> This is not about style or wanting a particular layout. This is about >>>> automation, contributor experience, and streamlining review >>>> >>>> - Contributor experience: MUCH better than checkstyle: error message >>>> just says "run ./gradlew :beam-your-module:spotlessApply" instead of >>>> telling them to go in and manually edit. >>>> >>>> - Automation: You want to use autoformat so you don't have to format >>>> code by hand. But if you autoformat a file that was in some other format, >>>> then you touch a bunch of unrelated lines. If the file is already >>>> autoformatted, it is much better. >>>> >>>> - Review: Never talk about code formatting ever again. A PR also needs >>>> baseline to already be autoformatted or formatting will make it unclear >>>> which lines are really changed. >>>> >>>> This is already available via applyJavaNature(enableSpotless: true) and >>>> it is turned on for SQL and our buildSrc gradle plugins. It is very nice. >>>> There is a JIRA [2] to turn it on for the hold code base. Personally, I >>>> think (a) every module could make a different choice if the main >>>> contributors feel strongly and (b) it is objectively better to always >>>> autoformat :-) >>>> >>>> WDYT? If we do it, it is trivial to add it module-at-a-time or >>>> globally. If someone conflicts with a massive autoformat commit, they can >>>> just keep their changes and autoformat them and it is done. >>>> >>>> Kenn >>>> >>>> [1] https://github.com/diffplug/spotless/tree/master/plugin-gradle >>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4394 >>>> >>>>