Nope! No discretion allowed :-)

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:57 AM Raghu Angadi <rang...@google.com> wrote:

> +1.
>
> Wondering if it can be configured to reformat only what we care most about
> (2 space indentation etc), allowing some discretion on the edges. An
> example of inconsistent formatting that ends up in my code:
> ---
> anObject.someLongMethodName(arg_number_1,
>                                                        arg_number_2);
> --- vs ---
> anObject.anotherMethodName(
>   arg_number_1,
>   arg_number_2
> );
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:41 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> It wasn't clear to me that the intent was to autoformat all the code from
>> the proposal initially. If thats the case, then the delta is quite small
>> typically.
>>
>> Also, it would be easier if we recommended to users to run run
>> "./gradlew spotlessApply" which will run spotless on all modules.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:31 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Luke: the proposal here solves exactly what you are talking about.
>>>
>>> The problem you describe happens when the PR author uses autoformat but
>>> the baseline is not already autoformatted. What I am proposing is to make
>>> sure the baseline is already autoformatted, so PRs never have extraneous
>>> formatting changes.
>>>
>>> Rafael: the default setting on GitHub is "allow edits by maintainers" so
>>> actually a committer can run spotless on behalf of a contributor and push
>>> the fixup. I have done this. It also lets a committer fix up a good PR
>>> and merge it even if the contributor is, say, asleep.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Rafael Fernandez <rfern...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Luke: Anything that helps contributors and reviewers work better
>>>> together - +1! :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:04 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If spotless is run against a PR that is already well formatted its a
>>>>> non-issue as the formatting changes are usually related to the change but 
>>>>> I
>>>>> have reviewed a few PRs that have 100s of lines of formatting change which
>>>>> really obfuscates the work.
>>>>> Instead of asking contributors to run spotless, can we have a cron job
>>>>> run it across the project like once a day/week/... and cut a PR?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:07 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good points, Dan. Checkstyle will still run, but just focused on the
>>>>>> things that go beyond format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:03 AM Etienne Chauchot <
>>>>>> echauc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 !
>>>>>>> It's my custom to avoid reformatting to spare meaningless diff
>>>>>>> burden to the reviewer. Now it will be over, thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mardi 26 juin 2018 à 21:15 -0700, Kenneth Knowles a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like readable code, but I don't like formatting it myself. And I
>>>>>>> _really_ don't like discussing in code review. "Spotless" [1] can 
>>>>>>> enforce -
>>>>>>> and automatically apply - automatic formatting for Java, Groovy, and 
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not about style or wanting a particular layout. This is
>>>>>>> about automation, contributor experience, and streamlining review
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  - Contributor experience: MUCH better than checkstyle: error
>>>>>>> message just says "run ./gradlew :beam-your-module:spotlessApply" 
>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>> of telling them to go in and manually edit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  - Automation: You want to use autoformat so you don't have to
>>>>>>> format code by hand. But if you autoformat a file that was in some other
>>>>>>> format, then you touch a bunch of unrelated lines. If the file is 
>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>> autoformatted, it is much better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  - Review: Never talk about code formatting ever again. A PR also
>>>>>>> needs baseline to already be autoformatted or formatting will make it
>>>>>>> unclear which lines are really changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is already available via applyJavaNature(enableSpotless: true)
>>>>>>> and it is turned on for SQL and our buildSrc gradle plugins. It is very
>>>>>>> nice. There is a JIRA [2] to turn it on for the hold code base. 
>>>>>>> Personally,
>>>>>>> I think (a) every module could make a different choice if the main
>>>>>>> contributors feel strongly and (b) it is objectively better to always
>>>>>>> autoformat :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WDYT? If we do it, it is trivial to add it module-at-a-time or
>>>>>>> globally. If someone conflicts with a massive autoformat commit, they 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> just keep their changes and autoformat them and it is done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/diffplug/spotless/tree/master/plugin-gradle
>>>>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4394
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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