Indeed, retirement is not the death of a project, but rather one way to exit 
the Incubator. There is no shame in it. The ASF isn’t the best fit for every 
project.

-Taylor

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 7:49 PM, Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for info, I wasn't aware of what retiring meant, I assumed 
> (incorrectly) that retiring = death of a project.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:45 PM Manu Zhang <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Luke,
>> 
>> (On behalf of Gearpump runner)
>> 
>> Getting retired (from Apache) doesn't mean the end of Gearpump as a project 
>> but to make it easier to commit and release for, honestly speaking, a small 
>> community.
>> I've been maintaining Gearpump runner and will strive for better integration 
>> here. 
>> I agree we should revisit this question if the runner is too much of a 
>> burden. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Manu Zhang
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:34 AM Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Datatorrent the largest contributor to the Apex project has closed shop[1], 
>>> the project hasn't retired but development has significantly slowed down. 
>>> The Gearpump project has voted to retire[2].
>>> 
>>> Do people know if these runners are being used?
>>> Do people spend enough time on supporting/updating code in these areas or 
>>> looking at test flakes that warrant supporting them still?
>>> Are there other runners in a similar situation as to Apex or Gearpump?
>>> Should we revisit this question once we have a larger integration that we 
>>> want to do like SplittableDoFn or portability?
>>> 
>>> 1: 
>>> https://www.datanami.com/2018/05/08/datatorrent-stream-processing-startup-folds/
>>> 2: 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/03fc0421bb425f79d623863335bc2b81e4b6c77a169f508aadce7785@%3Cdev.gearpump.apache.org%3E

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