On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:29 AM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com> wrote:
> A URN defines the encoding. > > There are (unfortunately) *two* encodings defined for a Coder (defined > by a URN), the nested and the unnested one. IIRC, in both Java and > Python, the nested one prefixes with a var-int length, and the > unnested one does not. > Could you clarify where we define the exact encoding ? I only see a URN for UTF-8 [1] while if you look at the implementations Java includes length in the encoding [1] while Python [1] does not. [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/069fc3de95bd96f34c363308ad9ba988ab58502d/model/pipeline/src/main/proto/beam_runner_api.proto#L563 [2] https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/java/core/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/coders/StringUtf8Coder.java#L50 [3] https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/python/apache_beam/coders/coders.py#L321 > > We should define the spec clearly and have cross-language tests. > +1 Regarding backwards compatibility, I agree that we should probably not update existing coder classes. Probably we should just standardize the correct encoding (may be as a comment near corresponding URN in the beam_runner_api.proto ?) and create new coder classes as needed. > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:13 PM Pablo Estrada <pabl...@google.com> wrote: > > > > Could this be a backwards-incompatible change that would break pipelines > from upgrading? If they have data in-flight in between operators, and we > change the coder, they would break? > > I know very little about coders, but since nobody has mentioned it, I > wanted to make sure we have it in mind. > > -P. > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 8:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> Agree that a coder URN defines the encoding. I see that string UTF-8 > was added to the proto enum, but it needs a written spec of the encoding. > Ideally some test data that different languages can use to drive compliance > testing. > >> > >> Kenn > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 6:21 PM Robert Burke <rob...@frantil.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> String UTF8 was recently added as a "standard coder " URN in the > protos, but I don't think that developed beyond Java, so adding it to > Python would be reasonable in my opinion. > >>> > >>> The Go SDK handles Strings as "custom coders" presently which for Go > are always length prefixed (and reported to the Runner as LP+CustomCoder). > It would be straight forward to add the correct handling for strings, as Go > natively treats strings as UTF8. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019, 5:03 PM Heejong Lee <heej...@google.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> It looks like UTF-8 String Coder in Java and Python SDKs uses > different encoding schemes. StringUtf8Coder in Java SDK puts the varint > length of the input string before actual data bytes however StrUtf8Coder in > Python SDK directly encodes the input string to bytes value. For the last > few weeks, I've been testing and fixing cross-language IO transforms and > this discrepancy is a major blocker for me. IMO, we should unify the > encoding schemes of UTF8 strings across the different SDKs and make it a > standard coder. Any thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, >