+1, I was actually thinking about this just the other day. PortableRunner
should require job_endpoint to be set, and we can have a nice error message
directing the explicit use of FlinkRunner for the old behavior.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kyle Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Could the error message suggest switching to FlinkRunner (and/or other
> runners that start a job server for you)? Then it seems like the breakage
> would only be a minor annoyance.
>
> Definitely.
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:49 PM Brian Hulette <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Could the error message suggest switching to FlinkRunner (and/or other
>> runners that start a job server for you)? Then it seems like the breakage
>> would only be a minor annoyance.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:32 AM Kyle Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Currently, when running a pipeline that has the options
>>> runner=PortableRunner and job_endpoint unset, the Python SDK spins up a
>>> Dockerized Flink job server [1]. This is problematic because the
>>> PortableRunner can be used by any portable runner. So for example, a Spark
>>> runner user was recently baffled when their job ran successfully but
>>> printed a bunch of Flink log messages.
>>>
>>> There are not too many uses of this default behavior to my knowledge, at
>>> least within Beam itself. The only example I could find was in the
>>> portableWordCount tests, which is mostly the same as
>>> portableWordCountFlinkRunner tests [2]. The default behavior is entirely
>>> superseded by the FlinkRunner class, which provides better encapsulation.
>>>
>>> I also noticed that DockerizedJobServer is only used by [3]. In
>>> FlinkRunner, we pull the job server from Maven if necessary and call Java
>>> directly. In general, I think there are already quite enough knobs in the
>>> portability framework, so we should remove it unless there is reason to
>>> prefer running the job server with Docker instead of calling Java directly.
>>>
>>> There are a couple options:
>>>
>>> A) Remove the default behavior and require job_endpoint to always be set
>>> when using PortableRunner. This would be a breaking change.
>>> B) Keep the current behavior, but warn when the user sets
>>> runner=PortableRunner without job_endpoint. This is easy to miss, but it's
>>> better than nothing.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/33c73739cec8bc6a7c8319efa41eda7a2540bce1/sdks/python/apache_beam/runners/portability/job_server.py#L184
>>> [2]
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/b3596b89dbc002c686bdaa7853074e757a81b6fb/buildSrc/src/main/groovy/org/apache/beam/gradle/BeamModulePlugin.groovy#L1983-L2048
>>> [3]
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/33c73739cec8bc6a7c8319efa41eda7a2540bce1/sdks/python/apache_beam/runners/portability/job_server.py#L163
>>>
>>

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