I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-9860. Any takers?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 5:49 AM Ismaël Mejía <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 for A there are zero reasons to have a default runner set by
> default, being explicit is better as Robert suggests and it resolves
> the confusion that the user reported.
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:05 PM Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > +1, I was actually thinking about this just the other day.
> PortableRunner should require job_endpoint to be set, and we can have a
> nice error message directing the explicit use of FlinkRunner for the old
> behavior.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kyle Weaver <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Could the error message suggest switching to FlinkRunner (and/or
> other runners that start a job server for you)? Then it seems like the
> breakage would only be a minor annoyance.
> >>
> >> Definitely.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:49 PM Brian Hulette <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Could the error message suggest switching to FlinkRunner (and/or other
> runners that start a job server for you)? Then it seems like the breakage
> would only be a minor annoyance.
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:32 AM Kyle Weaver <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Currently, when running a pipeline that has the options
> runner=PortableRunner and job_endpoint unset, the Python SDK spins up a
> Dockerized Flink job server [1]. This is problematic because the
> PortableRunner can be used by any portable runner. So for example, a Spark
> runner user was recently baffled when their job ran successfully but
> printed a bunch of Flink log messages.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are not too many uses of this default behavior to my knowledge,
> at least within Beam itself. The only example I could find was in the
> portableWordCount tests, which is mostly the same as
> portableWordCountFlinkRunner tests [2]. The default behavior is entirely
> superseded by the FlinkRunner class, which provides better encapsulation.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also noticed that DockerizedJobServer is only used by [3]. In
> FlinkRunner, we pull the job server from Maven if necessary and call Java
> directly. In general, I think there are already quite enough knobs in the
> portability framework, so we should remove it unless there is reason to
> prefer running the job server with Docker instead of calling Java directly.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are a couple options:
> >>>>
> >>>> A) Remove the default behavior and require job_endpoint to always be
> set when using PortableRunner. This would be a breaking change.
> >>>> B) Keep the current behavior, but warn when the user sets
> runner=PortableRunner without job_endpoint. This is easy to miss, but it's
> better than nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think?
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/33c73739cec8bc6a7c8319efa41eda7a2540bce1/sdks/python/apache_beam/runners/portability/job_server.py#L184
> >>>> [2]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/b3596b89dbc002c686bdaa7853074e757a81b6fb/buildSrc/src/main/groovy/org/apache/beam/gradle/BeamModulePlugin.groovy#L1983-L2048
> >>>> [3]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/33c73739cec8bc6a7c8319efa41eda7a2540bce1/sdks/python/apache_beam/runners/portability/job_server.py#L163
>

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