Hi Boyuan,

I think your analysis is correct - with one exception. It should be possible to reuse the reader if and only if the last taken CheckpointMark equals to the new CheckpointMark the reader would be created from. But - this equality is on the happy path and should be satisfied for vast majority of invocations, so it will spare many call to createReader. Actually, it should be non-equal only after recovery from checkpoint, but then there should be no reader. So to be technically correct, we should keep the last CheckpointMark along with the open reader, but that might turn out to be non-necessary (I'm not sure about that and I would definitely keep the last CheckpointMark, because it is better safe than sorry :))

Jan

On 12/21/20 7:54 PM, Boyuan Zhang wrote:
Hi Jan,

    it seems that what we would want is to couple the lifecycle of the
    Reader not with the restriction but with the particular instance
    of (Un)boundedSource (after being split). That could be done in
    the processing DoFn, if it contained a cache mapping instance of
    the source to the (possibly null - i.e. not yet open) reader. In
    @NewTracker we could assign (or create) the reader to the tracker,
    as the tracker is created for each restriction.

    WDYT?

I was thinking about this but it seems like it is not applicable to the way how UnboundedSource and UnboundedReader work together. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The UnboundedReader is created from UnboundedSource per CheckpointMark[1], which means for certain sources, the CheckpointMark could affect some attributes like start position of the reader when resuming. So a single UnboundedSource could be mapped to multiple readers because of different instances of CheckpointMarl. That's also the reason why we use CheckpointMark as the restriction.

Please let me know if I misunderstand your suggestion.

[1] https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/java/core/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/UnboundedSource.java#L73-L78

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 9:18 AM Antonio Si <antonio...@gmail.com <mailto:antonio...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi Boyuan,

    Sorry for my late reply. I was off for a few days.

    I didn't use DirectRunner. I am using FlinkRunner.

    We measured the number of Kafka messages that we can processed per
    second.
    With Beam v2.26 with --experiments=use_deprecated_read and
    --fasterCopy=true,
    we are able to consume 13K messages per second, but with Beam v2.26
    without the use_deprecated_read option, we are only able to
    process 10K messages
    per second for the same pipeline.

    Thanks and regards,

    Antonio.

    On 2020/12/11 22:19:40, Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com
    <mailto:boyu...@google.com>> wrote:
    > Hi Antonio,
    >
    > Thanks for the details! Which version of Beam SDK are you using?
    And are
    > you using --experiments=beam_fn_api with DirectRunner to launch your
    > pipeline?
    >
    > For ReadFromKafkaDoFn.processElement(), it will take a Kafka
    > topic+partition as input element and a KafkaConsumer will be
    assigned to
    > this topic+partition then poll records continuously. The Kafka
    consumer
    > will resume reading and return from the process fn when
    >
    >    - There are no available records currently(this is a feature
    of SDF
    >    which calls SDF self-initiated checkpoint)
    >    - The OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker issues
    >    checkpoint request to ReadFromKafkaDoFn for getting partial
    results. The
    >    checkpoint frequency for DirectRunner is every 100 output
    records or every
    >    1 seconds.
    >
    > It seems like either the self-initiated checkpoint or
    DirectRunner issued
    > checkpoint gives you the performance regression since there is
    overhead
    > when rescheduling residuals. In your case, it's more like that the
    > checkpoint behavior of
    OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker
    > gives you 200 elements a batch. I want to understand what kind of
    > performance regression you are noticing? Is it slower to output
    the same
    > amount of records?
    >
    > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:31 PM Antonio Si <antonio...@gmail.com
    <mailto:antonio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Boyuan,
    > >
    > > This is Antonio. I reported the KafkaIO.read() performance
    issue on the
    > > slack channel a few days ago.
    > >
    > > I am not sure if this is helpful, but I have been doing some
    debugging on
    > > the SDK KafkaIO performance issue for our pipeline and I would
    like to
    > > provide some observations.
    > >
    > > It looks like in my case the
    ReadFromKafkaDoFn.processElement()  was
    > > invoked within the same thread and every time
    kafaconsumer.poll() is
    > > called, it returns some records, from 1 up to 200 records. So,
    it will
    > > proceed to run the pipeline steps. Each kafkaconsumer.poll()
    takes about
    > > 0.8ms. So, in this case, the polling and running of the
    pipeline are
    > > executed sequentially within a single thread. So, after
    processing a batch
    > > of records, it will need to wait for 0.8ms before it can
    process the next
    > > batch of records again.
    > >
    > > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    > >
    > > Hope that helps.
    > >
    > > Thanks and regards,
    > >
    > > Antonio.
    > >
    > > On 2020/12/04 19:17:46, Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com
    <mailto:boyu...@google.com>> wrote:
    > > > Opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-11403 for
    tracking.
    > > >
    > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 10:52 AM Boyuan Zhang
    <boyu...@google.com <mailto:boyu...@google.com>> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Thanks for the pointer, Steve! I'll check it out. The
    execution paths
    > > for
    > > > > UnboundedSource and SDF wrapper are different. It's highly
    possible
    > > that
    > > > > the regression either comes from the invocation path for
    SDF wrapper,
    > > or
    > > > > the implementation of SDF wrapper itself.
    > > > >
    > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 6:33 AM Steve Niemitz
    <sniem...@apache.org <mailto:sniem...@apache.org>>
    > > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >> Coincidentally, someone else in the ASF slack mentioned
    [1] yesterday
    > > > >> that they were seeing significantly reduced performance using
    > > KafkaIO.Read
    > > > >> w/ the SDF wrapper vs the unbounded source.  They
    mentioned they were
    > > using
    > > > >> flink 1.9.
    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/C9H0YNP3P/p1607057900393900
    > > > >>
    > > > >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:56 PM Boyuan Zhang
    <boyu...@google.com <mailto:boyu...@google.com>>
    > > wrote:
    > > > >>
    > > > >>> Hi Steve,
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>> I think the major performance regression comes from
    > > > >>> OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker[1],
    which will
    > > > >>> checkpoint the DoFn based on time/output limit and use
    timers/state
    > > to
    > > > >>> reschedule works.
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>> [1]
    > > > >>>
    > >
    
https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/runners/core-java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/core/OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker.java
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:40 AM Steve Niemitz
    <sniem...@apache.org <mailto:sniem...@apache.org>>
    > > > >>> wrote:
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>> I have a pipeline that reads from pubsub, does some
    aggregation, and
    > > > >>>> writes to various places. Previously, in older versions
    of beam,
    > > when
    > > > >>>> running this in the DirectRunner, messages would go
    through the
    > > pipeline
    > > > >>>> almost instantly, making it very easy to debug locally,
    etc.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> However, after upgrading to beam 2.25, I noticed that
    it could take
    > > on
    > > > >>>> the order of 5-10 minutes for messages to get from the
    pubsub read
    > > step to
    > > > >>>> the next step in the pipeline (deserializing them,
    etc).  The
    > > subscription
    > > > >>>> being read from has on the order of 100,000
    elements/sec arriving
    > > in it.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> Setting --experiments=use_deprecated_read fixes it, and
    makes the
    > > > >>>> pipeline behave as it did before.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> It seems like the SDF implementation in the
    DirectRunner here is
    > > > >>>> causing some kind of issue, either buffering a very
    large amount of
    > > data
    > > > >>>> before emitting it in a bundle, or something else.  Has
    anyone else
    > > run
    > > > >>>> into this?
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>
    > > >
    > >
    >

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