I updated the "become a committer" page as described in my last message.
Now each link directs to the corresponding section in
/contribute/attributes.

See
http://apache-beam-website-pull-requests.storage.googleapis.com/13871/contribute/become-a-committer/index.html#what-are-the-traits-of-an-apache-beam-committer
(Note I don't have control over the preview staged at test-beam.surge.sh,
so that's now out of date for this page)

+Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> +Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]> -
could you take a look at the updated page and let me know if that addresses
your concerns? If not I can revert the changes to the "become a committer"
page.

Brian

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:26 PM Brian Hulette <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:56 AM Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Let's revert these content changes.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:54 AM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On the "become a committer" page, the link to "our best practices" is a
>>> 404 to the old site.
>>>
>>> Under the header "Knows, upholds, and reinforces the responsibilities of
>>> an Apache Software Foundation committer" I am -1 to removing the details.
>>> The bullets we chose are not included in the linked ASF documentation, and
>>> we chose to highlight specific aspects. This is a significant content
>>> change that I do not think we should make. If the design idea is to
>>> declutter the page, the details should still exist on another page on the
>>> Beam site.
>>>
>>
> The broken link is actually supposed to go to a page that has the bullets
> (copied verbatim from the original I believe):
> http://test-beam.surge.sh/contribute/attributes/
> There's a couple of things wrong here:
> - As you noted the link is broken, we probably just need to remove a
> beam.apache.org/ somewhere.
> - It's odd that this page is linked from within the best practices trait,
> as it actually includes details for all three major traits, including but
> not limited to best practices
>
> I could probably address the first item myself.
> Addressing the second one is a design question though. Maybe each trait
> should have a link to it's section in
> http://test-beam.surge.sh/contribute/attributes/ instead of some of them
> going to the ASF docs?
>
> I'd also be fine reverting the change if you still think that's the right
> approach.
>
>
>>
>>> Under the header "Knows, upholds, and reinforces the Apache Software
>>> Foundation code of conduct. To learn more see the ASF documentation." I am
>>> -0 to removing the details. Our bullets highlight specific aspects of the
>>> code of conduct. Specifically, we split up one of the items into separate
>>> bullet points, and we did not emphasize "be concise" or "step down
>>> considerately". I am OK going ahead with this change but want to note that
>>> this is a content change.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:46 AM Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 based on some basic browsing around.
>>>>
>>>> It would have been nice if the old and new site could have been
>>>> generated from the same content, to keep the old one around for a bit (if
>>>> needed, in that case we might have more confidence nothing was lost), but
>>>> probably not worth making and staging a copy.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:45 PM Brittany Hermann <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> : Thank you for the suggestions to
>>>>> the Powered By page! I created two JIRA tickets for each of these.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:34 AM Brian Hulette <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> > Optional point: does it make sense to maintain a link to the old
>>>>>> Website from the new one for some time (in case something gets
>>>>>> broken in the new version or some information becomes unavailable) ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We could do this, but I think it would require duplicating all the
>>>>>> source for the existing website and putting it in a separate directory, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the content would slowly get out of date. I'm not sure it would be an
>>>>>> improvement - we'll have access to the current website in the
>>>>>> commit history anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 4:44 PM Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 - I did a basic review looking around python docs and release
>>>>>>> guides mostly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing I would like to see fixed related to
>>>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/community/powered-by/
>>>>>>> - New page is missing existing items from the current list
>>>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/community/powered-by/. Particularly I could
>>>>>>> not find TFX and Cloud Dataflow.
>>>>>>> - And a nice to have for that same page: New page could be
>>>>>>> simplified. There are a total of 8 powered by items and they are divided
>>>>>>> into two groups (1 click) and each group loads 3 items at a time 
>>>>>>> (another
>>>>>>> click). I think it would be much more simple to list all 8 references 
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>> single page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great suggestion Cham. Noting it as optional.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 13:51, Chamikara Jayalath <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. This looks great.
>>>>>>>>> Optional point: does it make sense to maintain a link to the old
>>>>>>>>> Website from the new one for some time (in case something gets broken 
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the new version or some information becomes unavailable) ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Cham
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 1:09 PM Pablo Estrada <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>> I'm taking a superficial look through it as we speak. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> everyone for the work : )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:32 AM Brian Hulette <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thank you Gris!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to add a note about my reviews here. I reviewed
>>>>>>>>>>> this change as a series of PRs that went into the website-revamp 
>>>>>>>>>>> branch. My
>>>>>>>>>>> main focus in reviewing them was ensuring that no content was
>>>>>>>>>>> /unintentionally/ changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Note that some content is intentionally changed and/or moved
>>>>>>>>>>> around as described in the designs Gris shared. Other content is 
>>>>>>>>>>> separated
>>>>>>>>>>> out from markdown files into yaml files, I believe to aid future
>>>>>>>>>>> translation efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This makes it pretty tricky to verify the content based on the
>>>>>>>>>>> diff alone at this point, which is why I want to reassure the 
>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>> that I had a particular focus on this in my reviews. I'm not perfect
>>>>>>>>>>> though! so more people looking over the changed pages will be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 9:13 PM Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The new designs for the Beam website are ready to be published
>>>>>>>>>>>> in PR #13871 [1], so I'd like to start a vote to merge this PR 
>>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>>> master repo. Considering that this PR could get stale very 
>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly, we're
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking to follow the 72h voting period starting Monday, if there 
>>>>>>>>>>>> are minor
>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs we will file them as Jira tickets so we can address them in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the next
>>>>>>>>>>>> refresh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This effort started back in November, when we kicked-off a
>>>>>>>>>>>> project to redesign a few critical pages of the Beam website, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily the
>>>>>>>>>>>> home page, a few of the community sections and the documentation 
>>>>>>>>>>>> landing
>>>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Below you can find a summary of the changes and links to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> staged website for your review.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *What do I need to vote for? *
>>>>>>>>>>>> To merge PR #13871 [1] into master. This PR has been reviewed
>>>>>>>>>>>> by Brian H and Gris C (committers). You can see the staged version 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> website here [2], for mobile versions use the same link in your 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see a summary of changed pages in this deck [3]. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>> want even more background, you can read the requirements document 
>>>>>>>>>>>> here [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the design document with copy and wireframes here [5].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Where can I see how the new designs look?*
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see a staged version here [2], for mobile versions use
>>>>>>>>>>>> the same link in your mobile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Why was this redesign made?*
>>>>>>>>>>>> This redesign was phase II of a long-term effort to make the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Beam website more effective for users who want to learn 
>>>>>>>>>>>> about Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>> Beam, implement it and contribute to the open source project. This 
>>>>>>>>>>>> phase
>>>>>>>>>>>> was focused on improving resources for two types of users: 1) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> those looking
>>>>>>>>>>>> to understand what Apache Beam is and to make the decision to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt it and
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) those looking to make their first contribution to the OSS 
>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *What changes in this redesign?*
>>>>>>>>>>>> We redesign 8 pages, including the home page, and created 3 new
>>>>>>>>>>>> sections, see more details here [3].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Links:
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/13871
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://test-beam.surge.sh/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1WcBccS4Bt6ZAEkw-nsud2MjU4H0j_iOkIk5XlPDk8f0/edit#slide=id.p
>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rssE8B6fvwLfyODS6KKp049KryhKn8E-HlHkzM8TWkE/edit
>>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DDk8DtYGzuTO7bdu2nqiVEgVnx06lCzZ2idVpwcemFA/edit?resourcekey=0-KGE8dMg8L4j5rcqnQ5SG_g
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And lastly, HUGE THANK YOU to the team who contributed to these
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes (in alphabetical order): Agnieszka Sell, Brian Hulette, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brittany
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hermann, David Cavazos, Gris Cuevas, Jakub Sadowski,  Kasia Zajac, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>>>>>> Knowles, Milka Toikkanen, Nam Bui, Rose Nguyen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Brittany Hermann
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>

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