The second chart is clearly bad and getting worse. Our flake bugs are not
getting addressed in a timely manner.

Zooming in on the first chart for the last 3 months you can see a notable
change:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=464&projectKey=BEAM&view=reporting&chart=cumulativeFlowDiagram&swimlane=1174&swimlane=1175&column=2038&column=2039&column=2040&days=90.
This will not change the average in the second chart very quickly.

It may be just cleanup. That seems likely. Anecdotally, I have done a lot
of triage recently of failures and I know of only two severe flakes (that
you can count on seeing in a day/week). If so, then more cleanup would be
valuable. This is why I ran the second report: I suspected that we had a
lot of very old stale flake bugs that noone is looking at.

Kenn

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 4:37 PM Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you for sharing the charts.
>
> I know you are the messenger here, but I disagree with the message that
> flakes are getting noticeably better. Number of open issues look quite
> large but at least stable. I will guess that some of those are stale and
> seemingly we did a clean up in July 2020. We can try that again. Second
> chart shows a bad picture IMO. Issues staying open for 500-600 days on
> average sounds like really long.
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 1:42 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Alright, I think it should be fixed. The underlying saved filter had not
>> been shared.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 8:02 AM Brian Hulette <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The first link doesn't work for me, I just see a blank page with some
>>> jira header and navbar. Do I need some additional permissions?
>>>
>>> If I click over to "Kanban Board" on the toggle at the top right I see a
>>> card with "Error: The requested board cannot be viewed because it either
>>> does not exist or you do not have permission to view it."
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:56 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I spoke too soon?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?projectOrFilterId=project-12319527&periodName=daily&daysprevious=300&selectedProjectId=12319527&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira.jira-core-reports-plugin%3Aaverageage-report&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED_ea6ac783c727523cf6bfed04ba94ce91bb62da91_lin&Next=Next
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:54 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I made a quick* Jira chart to see how we are doing at flakes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=464&projectKey=BEAM&view=reporting&chart=cumulativeFlowDiagram&swimlane=1174&swimlane=1175&column=2038&column=2039&column=2040
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking a lot better recently at resolving them! (whether these are
>>>>> new fixes or just resolving stale bugs, I love it)
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>> *AFAICT you need to make a saved search, then an agile board based on
>>>>> the saved search, then you can look at reports
>>>>>
>>>>

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