Any suggestions on how to clean this up? We can organize a cleanup to
reduce the numbers a bit. Ideally we need to find a way to prevent the
future growth but a temporary reduction might make it easier for us to keep
reviewing and closing new issues.

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:11 AM Brian Hulette <[email protected]> wrote:

> In addition to stale flake jiras, I think there are also many tracking
> tests that were disabled years ago due to flakiness.
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 1:39 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Oh the second chart is not automatically associated with the
>> board/filter. Here is the correct link:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?projectOrFilterId=filter-12350547&periodName=daily&daysprevious=300&selectedProjectId=12319527&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira.jira-core-reports-plugin%3Aaverageage-report&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED_ea6ac783c727523cf6bfed04ba94ce91bb62da91_lin&Next=Next
>>
>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 1:37 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The second chart is clearly bad and getting worse. Our flake bugs are
>>> not getting addressed in a timely manner.
>>>
>>> Zooming in on the first chart for the last 3 months you can see a
>>> notable change:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=464&projectKey=BEAM&view=reporting&chart=cumulativeFlowDiagram&swimlane=1174&swimlane=1175&column=2038&column=2039&column=2040&days=90.
>>> This will not change the average in the second chart very quickly.
>>>
>>> It may be just cleanup. That seems likely. Anecdotally, I have done a
>>> lot of triage recently of failures and I know of only two severe flakes
>>> (that you can count on seeing in a day/week). If so, then more cleanup
>>> would be valuable. This is why I ran the second report: I suspected that we
>>> had a lot of very old stale flake bugs that noone is looking at.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 4:37 PM Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for sharing the charts.
>>>>
>>>> I know you are the messenger here, but I disagree with the message that
>>>> flakes are getting noticeably better. Number of open issues look quite
>>>> large but at least stable. I will guess that some of those are stale and
>>>> seemingly we did a clean up in July 2020. We can try that again. Second
>>>> chart shows a bad picture IMO. Issues staying open for 500-600 days on
>>>> average sounds like really long.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 1:42 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alright, I think it should be fixed. The underlying saved filter had
>>>>> not been shared.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 8:02 AM Brian Hulette <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The first link doesn't work for me, I just see a blank page with some
>>>>>> jira header and navbar. Do I need some additional permissions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I click over to "Kanban Board" on the toggle at the top right I
>>>>>> see a card with "Error: The requested board cannot be viewed because it
>>>>>> either does not exist or you do not have permission to view it."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:56 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I spoke too soon?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?projectOrFilterId=project-12319527&periodName=daily&daysprevious=300&selectedProjectId=12319527&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira.jira-core-reports-plugin%3Aaverageage-report&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED_ea6ac783c727523cf6bfed04ba94ce91bb62da91_lin&Next=Next
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:54 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I made a quick* Jira chart to see how we are doing at flakes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=464&projectKey=BEAM&view=reporting&chart=cumulativeFlowDiagram&swimlane=1174&swimlane=1175&column=2038&column=2039&column=2040
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking a lot better recently at resolving them! (whether these are
>>>>>>>> new fixes or just resolving stale bugs, I love it)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *AFAICT you need to make a saved search, then an agile board based
>>>>>>>> on the saved search, then you can look at reports
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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