Bruce

I have busy with other things including Christmas shopping, to this has been a 
bit slow in coming.
        
I have update the http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/developer1.html page and  
hope I have amended as to your suggestions.

I will try to get it on the Wiki site tomorrow.

David


On Monday 05 December 2005 3:39 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> OK, I spent a bit of time now going through.  I think right now the
> text -- the actual narrative explanation of "the plan" -- needs to be
> more tightly focused, and reorganized a bit. For example, take this
>
> opening paragraph:
> > The role of the Bibliographic Project (OOoBib) is to support the
> > OpenOffice.org Writer (wordprocessing) application by enhancing the
> > bibliographic facility. See our Vision statement for details. Our
> > current objection to to design and build OOoBib version 0.1, which
> > will contain the most basic functions for an usable bibligraphic
> > facility.
>
> A lot of the text reads this way, where the content is fairly generic,
> and then there are links to other detailed documents.
>
> I'd change the organization to list "further references" (those links
> now inlined in the content) at the end, and include the most important
> content in the main body.  For example, we need to say really clearly
> that we want to achieve the following objectives:
>
> 1)  Enhance formatting to support:
>       a. complex features required of commonly used citation styles like APA
> and Chicago
>       b. automatically switching between potentially radically different
> citation styles
>
> 2)  Enhance data model to support a broader range of reference types
>
> 3)  Add support for connection to remote databases
>
> Much of the first stage stuff is thus related to 1 (though also
> includes the other two).
>
> I agree with CPH that we need to include examples of the new citation
> coding in this document, and we need to do so in order to demonstrate
> the sort of compelling features that it makes possible.  One of those
> features (related to 1b above) is to be able to seamlessly switch
> back-and-forth between author-year styles and footnote-based ones.
> This features is a) practically useful, b) unsupported in commercial
> alternatives like Endnote, and c) demonstrates what this new citation
> coding will enable. It both shows the power of the new coding, and is
> also a good test of how well the final solution works.
>
> Anyway, here are two examples. The first is a standard author-year
> style, with additional page number details:
>
> <cite:citation xmlns:cite="http://purl.org/NET/xbiblio/cite/1.0";
>    xmlns:text="urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0">
>    <cite:citation-source>
>      <cite:biblioref cite:key="Veer1996a">
>        <cite:detail cite:units="pages" cite:begin="23" cite:end="24"/>
>      </cite:biblioref>
>    </cite:citation-source>
>    <cite:citation-body>
>      <text:span text:style-name="Citation">(Veer, 1996:
> 23-24)</text:span>
>    </cite:citation-body>
> </cite:citation>
>
> The second is a footnoted example.
>
> <cite:citation xmlns:cite="http://purl.org/NET/xbiblio/cite/1.0";
>    xmlns:text="urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0">
>    <cite:citation-source>
>      <cite:biblioref cite:key="Veer1996a"/>
>    </cite:citation-source>
>    <cite:citation-body>
>      <text:note text:id="ftn0" text:note-class="footnote">
>        <text:note-citation>1</text:note-citation>
>        <text:note-body>
>          <text:p text:style-name="Footnote">Peter van der Veer (1996)
> Riots and Rituals: The
>            Construction of Violence and Public Space in Hindu
> Nationalism, In Paul Brass Ed., Riots
>            and Pogroms (New York:NYU Press) 154–76.</text:p>
>        </text:note-body>
>      </text:note>
>    </cite:citation-body>
> </cite:citation>
>
> The idea here is that one should be able to switch between the two
> without modifying the document source.  So the trick is that OOo
> handles the cite:citation-body content is if it was any other content.
> These "footnoted citations", then, would look the same as any other
> footnote, both in terms of display, and also numbering.
>
> There may be a minor change needed depending on where the RDF
> discussion goes (namely that cite:key may be too specific, and we may
> want a more generic way to link content to metadata items), but it
> ought to be otherwise pretty stable.
>
> I also wonder if the namespace ought to be changed to be use the oasis
> urn? In any case, minor details.
>
> Bruce
>
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