I disagree Bruce, about not storing rendered content in the XML. I think it needs to be stored in a rendered form.
If you don't then it will make it very hard to write things like OpenDocument to HTML transforms in random languages as you would need to run citeproc to format citations and bibliographies. Related to this is an interoperability question. It is important not to focus only on interop with OOo2, after all with a free software package it is easy to get users to upgrade. Consider the interop problems with MS Word. Have you considered an approach where citations are stored as rendered text (or footnote/endnotes) in place with a link of some kind back to the bibliographic database with the citation details stored as an item in the database. That is you would have a (1) Work, with (2) particular expression (is that what you call it) with (3) a citation by page or line number or whatever . That is three items in the database - and only one simple link in the documnet text. Seems to me that this would fit very well with your RDF approach, Bruce. And an approach like this might mean that you could build a solution that could wodk with OpenXML docs as well. On 6/28/06, Bruce D'Arcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
bib project questions ... Re: David Wilson's idea that citeproc give pre-rendered citation and bibliography chunks (first/subsequent, etc.) and save it in the XML, described here: <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Citeproc_Writer_Interaction> I've thought about this some, and agree with the first part, but not that the rendered content should be saved in the XML. I think perhaps we can modify the bibliographic class to store that pre-formatted content (or create a new ReferenceList class?), so that it's just stored in memory, rather than saved?
I've updated the wiki to reflect this.
So process is something like: Citation passes list of ids to ReferenceList ReferenceList requests formatted citation and bib chunks from citeproc Citation requests formatted citation from ReferenceList Bibliography = ReferenceList to ODF I think this is how MS is doing it in Word 2007. Right now citeproc is XSLT 2.0. It'd be nice if we could just use it more-or-less as is. Svante has suggested it's likely OOo might switch to using Saxon (and thus get XSLT 2.0 for free) in the next major release. How feasible would it be to this? Could we implement essentially real-time citation processing using XSLT? It's hard enough to get good C++ programmers, and I'd rather not have them waste time reimplementing citeproc in that language when it already works quite well. Bruce --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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