The cloudstack guidelines look like a good approach

Sean, for "sake of full disclosure", who is your employer?  New to the
community and don’t know many people yet, nice to know where opinions are
coming from given this topic.  In looking at the twitter feed from past
couple weeks imagine you are hworks or cloudera personnel?

Having spent lots of time as a user in many open source communities and
worked in commercial open source space off/on for past several years
definitely want to have guidelines for positive dialogue and ideas expresses
on mailing lists, forums, social media, etc for any project I partake in.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruno Mahé [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 4:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ASF Bigtop twitter handle

Huge +1 to Sean.

I believe Apache CloudStack has done a great job at defining some guidelines
for its social media presence.
What do you think about reuing it?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Social+Media+Guidelin
es

They seem pretty well suited to our project as well.
They leave enough room to further Apache Bigtop as a project and a community
while preventing the issues we are currently trying to solve.

Thanks,
Bruno

On 03/08/2015 04:25 PM, Sean Mackrory wrote:
> All,
>
> I have been asked by multiple members of the PMC to restart a 
> discussion on this mailing list that has been getting discussed on the 
> private mailing list. I will simply start by stating my own take on 
> the issue, as I do not want to misrepresent or overrepresent anyone 
> else's views as already shared on that private mailing list. I would 
> encourage those that already posted in the previous thread to re-share
their input themselves.
>
> A member of the community raised concern about some tweets that were 
> made on Twitter through the handle @ASFbigtop about other 
> organizations. It is clear from the discussion that some tweets from 
> that account do not represent consensus among the Bigtop PMC. In my 
> view, some of the tweets on that account have been factually 
> incorrect, overly biased by the author's own affiliations and 
> opinions, and they are harmful to the community. There is 
> understandable disagreement about how to decide what should be tweeted 
> in the name of the project in the future as drawing a line here is 
> hard and none of us want bureaucracy for it's own sake. However I 
> believe that given discussion so far, the burden to justify future 
> tweets lies with the person or people who will make them. In general, 
> I believe a Twitter account that bears the name of the project needs 
> to be focused entirely on building community and advancing the 
> project, and should not be controlled unchecked by a single individual 
> or even just a portion of the community. There are certainly 
> exceptions, but I would say that for the most part sarcasm, criticism and
negativity has no place on that account, especially when it is so far from
being a consensus of the entire community.
>
> For the sake of full disclosure regarding which "hat" I'm wearing - I 
> am employed by one of the organizations that have been criticized, 
> however I believe my comments are consistent with the principles that 
> should underly an Apache community. I don't believe any of us can 
> completely remove our own biases, but that is precisely why I think 
> the tweets that have been discussed belong on personal accounts - so 
> that even tweets that are considered factual by the author are 
> understood in the context of who that author is. I would love for the 
> project to have an active Twitter presence to congratulate contributors,
interact with users, and advance the project.
> I have full respect for any member of this community who agrees or 
> voices criticism of organizations with whom they disagree - I just 
> don't think it belongs on the project's Twitter handle, and it 
> certainly doesn't belong there when it doesn't really represent the
project.
>


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