Cause:
1) TomEE added some features relying on internal config (placeholders etc)
2) TomEE uses its own model for all EE descriptors whatever the spec is

That's not an issue on BVal side but it will need to be integrated
without forking as much as possible

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2014-03-19 16:52 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>:
> Why can't TomEE rely on BVal for parsing? We should devise something
> as simple as possible, whatever the case.
>
> Matt
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> well this way we'll need another spi for TomEE which can't rely on
>> BVal for parsing. That's why I thought sending the parsing result
>>
>>
>> BTW any urgence on it?
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
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>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-19 16:43 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson <mben...@apache.org>:
>>> I was thinking along the lines Michael says. e.g.:
>>>
>>> public interface DefaultValidationConfigurationProvider {
>>>   InputStream getDefaultValidationConfiguration();
>>> }
>>>
>>> Then we use ServiceLoader (functional equivalent for BVal 1.0, Java 5)
>>> to find any available implementations. If none found, we fall back to:
>>>
>>> class StandardDefaultValidationConfigurationProvider implements
>>> DefaultValidationConfigurationProvider {
>>>   final Properties properties;
>>>   StandardDefaultValidationConfigurationProvider(Properties properties) {
>>>     this.properties = properties;
>>>   }
>>>
>>>   public InputStream getDefaultValidationConfiguration() {
>>>     // look for property pointing to custom resource, else
>>> META-INF/validation.xml
>>>     // ensure only one such resource
>>>     // return getResourceAsStream(resourceName)
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> This way TomEE would simply have to provide:
>>>
>>> WebApplicationDefaultValidationConfigurationProvider implements
>>> DefaultValidationConfigurationProvider {
>>>   public InputStream getDefaultValidationConfiguration() {
>>>     return 
>>> getServletContext().getResourceAsStream("WEB-INF/validation.xml");
>>>   }
>>>
>>>   private static ServletContext getServletContext() {
>>>     // TBD
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Actually I'd expect the SPI to give the processed instance and not the
>>>> location. That's why i sugegsted to wait a bit for it to see the real
>>>> need.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-19 16:10 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher <michael.blyak...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> How would an SPI like this work? Would it allow the EE server to specify
>>>>> the location of the validation.xml (maybe in the form of an InputStream)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> tomee parses it itself and then create the configuration itself. I
>>>>>> think we can wait tomee starts javaee7 to write it since it should be
>>>>>> very soon (when next release is done) and it would be the main and
>>>>>> more demanding user.
>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-18 19:42 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson <mben...@apache.org>:
>>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Michael Blyakher
>>>>>> > <michael.blyak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> Hi All,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks for the quick replies, and apologies for not being more 
>>>>>> >> specific
>>>>>> - I
>>>>>> >> was quoting the EE 7 Platform spec as I am particularly interested in
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> >> the bval 1.1 implementation that hasn't been officially released yet.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> But from what I am hearing, it is the responsibility of an EE server 
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> handle the WEB-INF case. I can see how this is possible for the 1.0
>>>>>> >> implementation, as the server can parse the validation.xml itself and
>>>>>> >> bootstrap the configuration through the validation spec API's. How 
>>>>>> >> would
>>>>>> >> this be done for the current 1.1 implementation in the bval-1.1 branch
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> >> the repository? I don't see how the values for the
>>>>>> "executable-validation"
>>>>>> >> element could be provided to the impl through the validation spec 
>>>>>> >> API's.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Well, the
>>>>>> http://bval.apache.org/mvnsite/bval-jsr303/apidocs/org/apache/bval/jsr303/ApacheValidatorConfiguration.Properties.html#VALIDATION_XML_PATH
>>>>>> > property can be used to point to a different resource on the
>>>>>> > classpath, but I can't find any mechanism that could be used to hook
>>>>>> > up WEB-INF/validation.xml, and I can't find how TomEE does it, so
>>>>>> > AFAICT you have indeed found what I consider a problem. Off the top of
>>>>>> > my head I think we could solve it by adding a simple SPI to discover
>>>>>> > the default validation configuration resource. Thoughts?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Matt
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >> Michael
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> >> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> Hi
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Bval only looks in META-INF but TomEE for instance (more generally EE
>>>>>> >>> servers) handles WEB-INF case.
>>>>>> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> >>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>>>> >>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> >>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>>>> >>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 2014-03-18 17:50 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher <
>>>>>> michael.blyak...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >>> > Hi,
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Where is the validation.xml supposed to be for a web archive? The
>>>>>> bval
>>>>>> >>> > spec's only indicate the "META-INF/validation.xml" location, but 
>>>>>> >>> > the
>>>>>> EE
>>>>>> >>> > platform spec indicates that for a web archive this location must 
>>>>>> >>> > be
>>>>>> >>> > "WEB-INF/validation.xml".
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > EE.5.17 - "The name of the descriptor is WEB-INF/validation.xml for
>>>>>> web
>>>>>> >>> > modules and META-INF/validation.xml for all other types of 
>>>>>> >>> > modules."
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Given this, I don't see anywhere in the bval 1.0 or 1.1 code that
>>>>>> handles
>>>>>> >>> > this. Am I missing something or does this implementation not handle
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> >>> > case for web archives?
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Thanks,
>>>>>> >>> > Michael
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>

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