Haisheng,

I hear you. I agree that major changes to rules will require new rule
classes (not merely sub-classes). People should copy-paste, refactor,
and all that good stuff. But I think there are a lot of cases where we
need to make minor changes to rules (there are many of these in the
code base already), and this change will help.

I have logged https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3923 and
am going to start working on a prototype. When we have a prototype we
will be able to assess how big an impact the API change will have.
(E.g. whether it will be a breaking change.)

Julian

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:22 PM Haisheng Yuan <h.y...@alibaba-inc.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think it is worth the refactoring. People who want to customize the 
> rule, in most cases, won't be satisfied by a different parameter, they most 
> likely still need to rewrite (copy & paste) the rule with some slightly their 
> own logic. For many Calcite users, the rule is not reusable even with 
> flexible configurations.
>
> - Haisheng
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 发件人:Stamatis Zampetakis<zabe...@gmail.com>
> 日 期:2020年03月14日 22:54:04
> 收件人:<dev@calcite.apache.org>
> 主 题:Re: [DISCUSS] Refactor how planner rules are parameterized
>
> Hello,
>
> Apologies for the late reply but I just realised that I had written the
> mail and never pressed the send button.
>
> I think it is a nice idea and certainly a problem worth addressing. If I
> understood well you're thinking something like the current constructor of
> the RelBuilder [1] that accepts a Context parameter. Indeed it seems that
> with this change even rules that are not designed to be configured can be
> changed much more gracefully (without adding new constructors and breaking
> changes).
>
> On the other hand, some of the advantages that you mention can also be
> turned into disadvantages. For instance, copying a rule without knowing the
> values of the other parameters is a bit risky and might be harder to reason
> about its correctness. Moreover, private constructors, final classes, etc.,
> are primarily used for encapsulation purposes so allowing the state of the
> rule escape somehow breaks the original design of the rule.
>
> Another problem with respect to rules is cross convention matching and
> transformations [2]. Many rules should not fire for operands that are in
> different conventions; a typical example that comes in my mind is
> FilterProjectTransposeRule [3]. In the same spirit most rules should not
> generate mixed convention transformations. Although a different problem, I
> am mentioning it here since it could affect the design of the new API.
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/f11115a2fe9e360f38910f112288581040e0ced5/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/tools/RelBuilder.java#L155
>
> [2]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/da1860f99f8bfd6ec7d26626c428ce1c55480e7c61ae7f83060a40c2%40%3Cdev.calcite.apache.org%3E
> [3]
> https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/7c27b147414c64505fa33c947100ece094caa15c/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/rel/rules/FilterProjectTransposeRule.java#L57
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:20 PM Michael Mior <mm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > This sounds reasonable to me. It also sounds like we could make this
> > backwards compatible by retaining (but deprecating) the existing
> > constructors and factory methods that will no longer be needed.
> > --
> > Michael Mior
> > mm...@apache.org
> >
> > Le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 à 13:11, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> a écrit :
> > >
> > > I have an idea for a refactoring to RelOptRule. I haven’t fully thought
> > it through, but I’m going to sketch it out here to see whether folks agree
> > about the problems/solutions.
> > >
> > > It will be a breaking change (in the sense that people will have to
> > change their code in order to get it to compile) but relatively safe (in
> > that once the code compiles, it will have the same behavior as before).
> > Also it will give Calcite developers and users a lot more flexibility going
> > forward.
> > >
> > > The problem I see is that people often want different variants of
> > planner rules. An example is FilterJoinRule, which has a 'boolean smart’
> > parameter, a predicate (which returns whether to pull up filter
> > conditions), operands (which determine the precise sub-classes of RelNode
> > that the rule should match) and a relBuilderFactory (which controls the
> > type of RelNode created by this rule).
> > >
> > > Suppose you have an instance of FilterJoinRule and you want to change
> > ‘smart’ from true to false. The ‘smart’ parameter is immutable (good!) but
> > you can’t easily create a clone of the rule because you don’t know the
> > values of the other parameters. Your instance might even be (unbeknownst to
> > you) a sub-class with extra parameters and a private constructor.
> > >
> > > So, my proposal is to put all of the config information of a RelOptRule
> > into a single ‘config’ parameter that contains all relevant properties.
> > Each sub-class of RelOptRule would have one constructor with just a
> > ‘config’ parameter. Each config knows which sub-class of RelOptRule to
> > create. Therefore it is easy to copy a config, change one or more
> > properties, and create a new rule instance.
> > >
> > > Adding a property to a rule’s config does not require us to add or
> > deprecate any constructors.
> > >
> > > The operands are part of the config, so if you have a rule that matches
> > a EnumerableFilter on an EnumerableJoin and you want to make it match an
> > EnumerableFilter on an EnumerableNestedLoopJoin, you can easily create one
> > with one changed operand.
> > >
> > > The config is immutable and self-describing, so we can use it to
> > automatically generate a unique description for each rule instance.
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > > [1]
> > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/5fa41609cb0fe310a0a11d86319d861423850a36/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/rel/rules/FilterJoinRule.java#L93
> > <
> > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/5fa41609cb0fe310a0a11d86319d861423850a36/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/rel/rules/FilterJoinRule.java#L93
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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