Hi Julian,

Thanks for working on this.

We haven't reached a consensus yet.

Frankly speaking, I agree with what Stamatis said earlier. Flexibility doesn't 
come with no cost. Admittedly, with this patch, any rule constructor 
refactoring won't need to deprecate old constructors and break backward 
compatibility, however, it also makes the rule definition much more verbose, 
less readable and understandable. IMHO, it does more harm than good.

Let's see how CassandraFilterRule becomes before and after the change.

Before this change:

  private static class CassandraFilterRule extends RelOptRule {
    private static final CassandraFilterRule INSTANCE = new 
CassandraFilterRule();

    private CassandraFilterRule() {
      super(operand(LogicalFilter.class, operand(CassandraTableScan.class, 
none())),
          "CassandraFilterRule");
    }
  }

After this change:

  private static class CassandraFilterRule
      extends RelOptNewRule<CassandraFilterRule.Config> {
    private static final CassandraFilterRule INSTANCE =
        Config.EMPTY
            .withOperandSupplier(b0 ->
                b0.operand(LogicalFilter.class)
                    .oneInput(b1 -> b1.operand(CassandraTableScan.class)
                        .noInputs()))
            .as(Config.class)
            .toRule();

    /** Creates a CassandraFilterRule. */
    protected CassandraFilterRule(Config config) {
      super(config);
    }

    /** Rule configuration. */
    public interface Config extends RelOptNewRule.Config {
      @Override default CassandraFilterRule toRule() {
        return new CassandraFilterRule(this);
      }
    }
  }


Intuitively, if we want to check what does the rule generally match or how it 
is defined, we just check the constructor. Now we checkout the constructor, 
only config is there, go to Config, there is still nothing interesting, we have 
to go to the INSTANCE. What is the difference with just using operand and 
optionConfig as the rule constructor?

   protected CassandraFilterRule(RelOptRuleOperand operand, Config config) {
     super(operand, config);
   }

Or even simply replace Config with int, with each bit represent an option, if 
all of them are boolean options.

Nothing is more flexible than just using RelOptRuleOperand as the parameter, 
just like the base class RelOptRule does. But do we want it?

At the same time, with the new approach, it is now legit to create the 
following instance:

  private static final CassandraFilterRule INSTANCE2 =
        Config.EMPTY
            .withOperandSupplier(b0 ->
                b0.operand(LogicalProject.class)  // Even the is intended to 
match Filter, but it compiles
                    .oneInput(b1 -> b1.operand(CassandraTableScan.class)
                        .noInputs()))
            .as(Config.class)
            .toRule();

Before we continue to the discussion and code review, we need to go back to the 
original problem, is it a real problem that is facing us? Is there any real 
demand or just artificial demand? How about we conduct a Calcite user survey to 
see how Calcite devs and users think? Then let's see how to move forward.

[+1] Hell yeah, the new approach is awesome, let's go with it.
[+0] Meh, I am OK with current approach, I don't see any burden or problem with 
it.
[-1] Hell no, current approach is bad, the new one is even worse.


Thanks,
Haisheng


On 2020/06/12 23:51:56, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: 
> There is now a PR: https://github.com/apache/calcite/pull/2024. Can
> people please review?
> 
> Here's the TL;DR:
> 
> Previously, it was not easy to customize, re-use or extend planner
> rules. If you wished to customize a rule (i.e. create a new instance
> of a rule with different properties) you would have to call the rule's
> constructor. Frequently the required constructor did not exist, so we
> would have to add a new constructor and deprecate the old one.
> 
> After this change, you start off from an instance of the rule, modify
> its configuration, and call toRule() on the configuration. (Rule
> constructors are now private, because only the configuration ever
> calls them.)
> 
> A good illustration of this is DruidRules, which used to contain many
> sub-classes. Those sub-classes are no longer needed. Old code:
> 
>   public static final DruidSortProjectTransposeRule SORT_PROJECT_TRANSPOSE =
>       new DruidSortProjectTransposeRule(RelFactories.LOGICAL_BUILDER);
> 
>     public static class DruidSortProjectTransposeRule
>         extends SortProjectTransposeRule {
>       public DruidSortProjectTransposeRule(RelBuilderFactory
> relBuilderFactory) {
>         super(
>             operand(Sort.class,
>                 operand(Project.class, operand(DruidQuery.class, none()))),
>             relBuilderFactory, null);
>       }
>     }
> 
> New code:
> 
>   public static final SortProjectTransposeRule SORT_PROJECT_TRANSPOSE =
>       SortProjectTransposeRule.INSTANCE.config
>           .withOperandFor(Sort.class, Project.class, DruidQuery.class)
>           .toRule();
> 
> The change maintains backwards compatibility to a large degree. In a
> few places, I had to change rule instances from type RelOptRule to
> Supplier<RelOptRule>, to avoid deadlocks during class loading. For
> instance, instead of writing FilterJoinRule.FILTER_ON_JOIN you must
> now write FilterJoinRule.FILTER_ON_JOIN.get().
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:08 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I have now pushed a dev branch with a prototype. Please see
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3923 for details.
> >
> > Having built the prototype, I believe that this change is beneficial
> > and we should do it. But I would like to get to consensus on the
> > design before we pull the trigger.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:06 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Haisheng,
> > >
> > > I hear you. I agree that major changes to rules will require new rule
> > > classes (not merely sub-classes). People should copy-paste, refactor,
> > > and all that good stuff. But I think there are a lot of cases where we
> > > need to make minor changes to rules (there are many of these in the
> > > code base already), and this change will help.
> > >
> > > I have logged https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3923 and
> > > am going to start working on a prototype. When we have a prototype we
> > > will be able to assess how big an impact the API change will have.
> > > (E.g. whether it will be a breaking change.)
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:22 PM Haisheng Yuan <h.y...@alibaba-inc.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it is worth the refactoring. People who want to customize 
> > > > the rule, in most cases, won't be satisfied by a different parameter, 
> > > > they most likely still need to rewrite (copy & paste) the rule with 
> > > > some slightly their own logic. For many Calcite users, the rule is not 
> > > > reusable even with flexible configurations.
> > > >
> > > > - Haisheng
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > 发件人:Stamatis Zampetakis<zabe...@gmail.com>
> > > > 日 期:2020年03月14日 22:54:04
> > > > 收件人:<dev@calcite.apache.org>
> > > > 主 题:Re: [DISCUSS] Refactor how planner rules are parameterized
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Apologies for the late reply but I just realised that I had written the
> > > > mail and never pressed the send button.
> > > >
> > > > I think it is a nice idea and certainly a problem worth addressing. If I
> > > > understood well you're thinking something like the current constructor 
> > > > of
> > > > the RelBuilder [1] that accepts a Context parameter. Indeed it seems 
> > > > that
> > > > with this change even rules that are not designed to be configured can 
> > > > be
> > > > changed much more gracefully (without adding new constructors and 
> > > > breaking
> > > > changes).
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, some of the advantages that you mention can also be
> > > > turned into disadvantages. For instance, copying a rule without knowing 
> > > > the
> > > > values of the other parameters is a bit risky and might be harder to 
> > > > reason
> > > > about its correctness. Moreover, private constructors, final classes, 
> > > > etc.,
> > > > are primarily used for encapsulation purposes so allowing the state of 
> > > > the
> > > > rule escape somehow breaks the original design of the rule.
> > > >
> > > > Another problem with respect to rules is cross convention matching and
> > > > transformations [2]. Many rules should not fire for operands that are in
> > > > different conventions; a typical example that comes in my mind is
> > > > FilterProjectTransposeRule [3]. In the same spirit most rules should not
> > > > generate mixed convention transformations. Although a different 
> > > > problem, I
> > > > am mentioning it here since it could affect the design of the new API.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Stamatis
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/f11115a2fe9e360f38910f112288581040e0ced5/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/tools/RelBuilder.java#L155
> > > >
> > > > [2]
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/da1860f99f8bfd6ec7d26626c428ce1c55480e7c61ae7f83060a40c2%40%3Cdev.calcite.apache.org%3E
> > > > [3]
> > > > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/7c27b147414c64505fa33c947100ece094caa15c/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/rel/rules/FilterProjectTransposeRule.java#L57
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:20 PM Michael Mior <mm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This sounds reasonable to me. It also sounds like we could make this
> > > > > backwards compatible by retaining (but deprecating) the existing
> > > > > constructors and factory methods that will no longer be needed.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Michael Mior
> > > > > mm...@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 à 13:11, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> a écrit 
> > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have an idea for a refactoring to RelOptRule. I haven’t fully 
> > > > > > thought
> > > > > it through, but I’m going to sketch it out here to see whether folks 
> > > > > agree
> > > > > about the problems/solutions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It will be a breaking change (in the sense that people will have to
> > > > > change their code in order to get it to compile) but relatively safe 
> > > > > (in
> > > > > that once the code compiles, it will have the same behavior as 
> > > > > before).
> > > > > Also it will give Calcite developers and users a lot more flexibility 
> > > > > going
> > > > > forward.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem I see is that people often want different variants of
> > > > > planner rules. An example is FilterJoinRule, which has a 'boolean 
> > > > > smart’
> > > > > parameter, a predicate (which returns whether to pull up filter
> > > > > conditions), operands (which determine the precise sub-classes of 
> > > > > RelNode
> > > > > that the rule should match) and a relBuilderFactory (which controls 
> > > > > the
> > > > > type of RelNode created by this rule).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Suppose you have an instance of FilterJoinRule and you want to 
> > > > > > change
> > > > > ‘smart’ from true to false. The ‘smart’ parameter is immutable 
> > > > > (good!) but
> > > > > you can’t easily create a clone of the rule because you don’t know the
> > > > > values of the other parameters. Your instance might even be 
> > > > > (unbeknownst to
> > > > > you) a sub-class with extra parameters and a private constructor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, my proposal is to put all of the config information of a 
> > > > > > RelOptRule
> > > > > into a single ‘config’ parameter that contains all relevant 
> > > > > properties.
> > > > > Each sub-class of RelOptRule would have one constructor with just a
> > > > > ‘config’ parameter. Each config knows which sub-class of RelOptRule to
> > > > > create. Therefore it is easy to copy a config, change one or more
> > > > > properties, and create a new rule instance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adding a property to a rule’s config does not require us to add or
> > > > > deprecate any constructors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The operands are part of the config, so if you have a rule that 
> > > > > > matches
> > > > > a EnumerableFilter on an EnumerableJoin and you want to make it match 
> > > > > an
> > > > > EnumerableFilter on an EnumerableNestedLoopJoin, you can easily 
> > > > > create one
> > > > > with one changed operand.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The config is immutable and self-describing, so we can use it to
> > > > > automatically generate a unique description for each rule instance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Julian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/5fa41609cb0fe310a0a11d86319d861423850a36/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/rel/rules/FilterJoinRule.java#L93
> > > > > <
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/5fa41609cb0fe310a0a11d86319d861423850a36/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/rel/rules/FilterJoinRule.java#L93
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> 

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