Hi Stamatis,
Thanks for your great work.

2) What areas do we need to do better?
1. Lattice/Materialized view
2. Streaming(we can more contact with Flink project)

3) Which other candidates should we consider for PMC chair?
I think Haisheng and Danny are all excellent choices.

Regards!

Aron Tao


Fan Liya <[email protected]> 于2020年11月9日周一 上午10:20写道:

> Hi Stamatis,
>
> Thanks for your great work!
> I am feeling lucky to have you as our chair in 2020!
>
> Concerning the problem of PR reviewing, one method that comes to my mind is
> to divide Calcite into a few sub-areas, and assign some owners to each
> sub-area (based on code contribution, etc.). So once a PR is submitted, the
> author could request review from the corresponding sub-area owners (github
> could help with this as well), and the owner can decide to
> review/triage/close the PR.  In this way, the responsibility for reviewers
> could be made clearer.
>
> +1 for voting Haisheng as our next chair. I believe he will be a great
> chair!
>
> Best,
> Liya Fan
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:30 AM Francis Chuang <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Stamatis,
> >
> > Thanks for putting this together for 2020. Thank you for being our chair
> > for 2020 and the excellent work you have done in this capacity.
> >
> > I agree that reviewing pull requests is still an issue with the project
> > and while we have made a lot of progress it this area, it's still
> > something we need to work on and improve.
> >
> > I am also glad that you raised the point regarding Avatica. I've been
> > meaning to write a message to the list to see if there are things we can
> > do to help Avatica as I've had some concerns about it for a while:
> > - Avatica seems to be quite mature and the code quite stable.
> > - There are 14 open PRs at the moment, so not a huge amount, but they
> > don't seem to be reviewed although Danny and Josh has picked a few out
> > to review during the year.
> > - To an outside observer, it looks like the project is not under active
> > development, other than the occasional commit every once in a while.
> > - I believe Avatica is still a critical component for other projects,
> > Phoenix is one that comes to mind, however, PRs not being reviewed can
> > discourage potential contributors.
> > - As there are only 14 open PRs at the moment, I think it would be
> > really great if the community could spare some cycles and merge, review
> > and close out those PRs. Quite a few of them have been hanging around
> > for a few years and if they are no longer relevant, I think they should
> > be closed.
> > - I'd definitely love to see more contributors to Avatica in terms of
> > reviewing PRs and merging. Does the community have any suggestions on
> > how we can do this better?
> >
> > +1 for proposing Haisheng Yuan as our next chair, I think he will be an
> > excellent choice!
> >
> > Francis
> >
> > On 5/11/2020 9:26 am, Stamatis Zampetakis wrote:
> > > Hi Calcite community members,
> > >
> > > A bit more than five years ago (October 22, 2015) Calcite graduated to
> a
> > > top-level Apache project[1]. At that time, the community decided to
> have
> > an
> > > annual “state of the project” discussion and to vote for a new PMC
> > > chair/VP[2]. So, I’m kicking off both of those discussions.
> > >
> > > I think it was an excellent year so far in many aspects.
> > >
> > > We were lucky to have many high quality contributions including:
> notable
> > > improvements in the Volcano planner (for speed, plan quality,
> > > extensibility) bringing it a bit closer to Cascades and Columbia [6, 7,
> > 8,
> > > 9]; easier and more extensible parameterization of rules [3]; new
> > dialects
> > > such as ClickHouse [4], and Presto [5]; support for SQL hints [10]; new
> > > adapters for querying Redis [11] and InnoDB [12] through Calcite;
> various
> > > enhancements in streaming SQL. The previous list is by no means
> > exhaustive.
> > >
> > > Apart from the new features, certainly worth mentioning is the
> > > modernization of the build and test infrastructure (for both Calcite
> and
> > > Avatica), with the migration from maven to gradle, JUnit4 to JUnit5,
> and
> > > the introduction of GitHub actions as part of the CI.
> > >
> > > In terms of CI, I am happy to see a few more integration tests (IT)
> > running
> > > on a regular basis on GitHub. Eventually, it will be nice to have even
> > more
> > > IT tests to help us catch regressions early on and improve the quality
> of
> > > our releases.
> > >
> > > We wouldn’t have so many great contributions, if we didn’t also have
> > > prolific contributors.
> > > Our community has grown with Danny, Haisheng, Ruben, joining the PMC,
> > > Forward, Xing, Vineet, Yanlin, Feng, Rui, joining as committers, and
> many
> > > more people chiming in discussions, reviews, and submitting pull
> > requests,
> > > who are not yet committers but I’m sure some of whom will become in the
> > > near future.
> > >
> > > We have had five Calcite releases (1.22.0 to 1.26.0), one Avatica
> release
> > > (1.17.0), and one Avatica Go (5.0.0) so far in 2020, and I think that
> is
> > a
> > > great tempo that we should strive to maintain in the years to come. One
> > > thing to improve is the poor implication of other people than Francis
> on
> > > the Avatica side; the rest of us, putting myself first, should try to
> be
> > > more involved by reviewing PRs, preparing releases, voting etc.
> > >
> > > It was nice to see our community members giving talks to conferences
> such
> > > as ApacheCon, and Flink Forward presenting Calcite and/or its
> > application.
> > > Some of us have also done presentations in universities in order to
> > > introduce Calcite to the next generation of computer engineers. One or
> > two
> > > conferences per year is a good number but it would be even better if we
> > > could increase this frequency. There are still many people, especially
> > > younger engineers, who are not aware of Calcite (at least this is the
> > > impression that I get by speaking with people in Europe) and we should
> be
> > > more active on the project’s dissemination.
> > >
> > > Calcite is a very versatile library/framework that can be used in many
> > > contexts. On one side, it is used in many production systems and
> utility
> > > apps with the most recent adopters being Hazelcast, Ignite, SuperSQL
> > > (Tencent), and NeuroBlade. On the other side, its adoption in research
> > > projects and teaching could be boosted. Every university has multiple
> > > projects and courses around databases and data integration where
> Calcite
> > > could be a good fit.
> > >
> > > Over the past few years we always had problems with reviewing pull
> > requests
> > > and I don’t think we made much progress on this aspect. In our last
> > > discussion around this topic, Julian suggested introducing some metrics
> > and
> > > giving credit to those people that are doing the most in this area, and
> > we
> > > all agreed to do so. Any ideas on improving this situation are highly
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Calcite is a vivid community and we are lucky to participate in many
> > > fruitful discussions. Of course, in every community there is some
> > friction
> > > from time to time and the same goes for Calcite. It is a bit
> unrealistic
> > to
> > > claim that we can eliminate it entirely but we can try to reduce it, by
> > > being more attentive and patient.
> > >
> > > Being PMC chair was a big learning experience for me and I am very
> > grateful
> > > for the opportunity that was given to me. It is certainly among the
> > things
> > > that I am most proud of and I would like to thank everyone who trusted
> > and
> > > helped me in this role.
> > >
> > > Last but not least, we should discuss who should be the new PMC chair
> of
> > > Calcite after I step down in December. I would like to nominate
> Haisheng
> > > Yuan as the first candidate in the vote. Apart from many high quality
> > > contributions, Haisheng has reviewed a big amount of PRs, and led many
> > > technical discussions to consensus. Haisheng has been in the community
> > for
> > > a while and I believe he will be a great chair if he is willing to
> > accept.
> > >
> > > To conclude, I will repeat the questions from previous years:
> > >
> > > 1) What else are we doing well in the project?
> > > 2) What areas do we need to do better?
> > > 3) Which other candidates should we consider for PMC chair?
> > >
> > > Please take some time to share your thoughts!
> > >
> > > Note that this discussion is for everyone; even if you have never sent
> an
> > > email to the list before now it is a good time to do so :)
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Stamatis
> > >
> > > [1] http://calcite.apache.org/news/2015/10/22/calcite-graduates/
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-calcite-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCF8D6F96-706F-4502-B41D-0689E357209D%40apache.org%3E
> > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3923
> > > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3724
> > > [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-2157
> > > [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3916
> > > [7] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3896
> > > [8] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3753
> > > [9] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-2970
> > > [10] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-482
> > > [11] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3510
> > > [12] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-4034
> > >
> >
>

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