Jon, we don't *really* *must* to have a *new* logo. We should have *a* logo. 
The boxed image isn't really a logo and we can keep it, it doesn't mean we have 
to replace it. Take a peek at servicemix for instance. It would be great to 
have something simple as a logo, as somebody already mentioned in this thread. 
Servicemix, Karaf and Aries did a great job, as well as many other Apache 
projects. The thing is camel does *not* have a logo.

Hadrian


On Mar 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Jon Anstey wrote:

> My current favs in order are:
> 
> #1 The current Camel logo
> #2 If we REALLY must use a new logo, then D looks best
> 
> I actually like that box... its a cool graphic :)
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> I believe we should drop the box. To me the box makes it look more like the
>> Camel cigarettes.
>> 
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> 
>>> We should maybe also have the box updated? Currently it has the old
>>> logo engraved.
>>> 
>>> We should maybe have a box
>>> - without logo
>>> - with logo
>>> 
>>> And maybe in different sizes. But maybe we can resize those ourself :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> About the Aries logo. When I think of Aries I kinda think about the
>>> old greek mythology and thus I think their logo fit the style back
>>> then.
>>> For Camel I don't have that thought, and would like the logo to not go
>>> down that path.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new
>> submissions. Go Debbie.
>>>> 
>>>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a
>> camel, obviously) ?
>>>> http://aries.apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>> 
>>>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos
>> again, and I like D even more.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> quick answer: D
>>>>> 
>>>>> longer answer:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>>>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>>>> improvements IMHO.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>>>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than
>> camels.
>>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>>>> in the logo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> D:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>>>> E:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>>>> F:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the
>> improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this
>> thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other
>> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from
>> what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll
>> or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for
>> the camel project.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>>>> A.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> B.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> C.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above
>> please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the
>> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top
>> row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3
>> and C1, in that order.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style,
>> size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the
>> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>>> Email: cib...@fusesource.com
>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> James
>>>>> -------
>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>> Email: ja...@fusesource.com
>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Open Source Integration
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> -----------------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: cib...@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Jon
> ---------------
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