Thanks. I will do so. 
Hadrian

On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Davies wrote:

> Hadrian,
> 
> It would be great if you could get clarification from ASF legal on the use of 
> the logo.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> rob
> On 29 Mar 2011, at 14:51, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> 
>> Rob, I *always* wear an Apache hat on this list. And I don't appreciate 
>> cheap innuendoes. Please feel free to point to any instance in the past when 
>> it wasn't the case. Until then please choose your words carefully.
>> 
>> The Camel project, or any project, or any organization cannot use a mark 
>> that would create confusion, registered or not. Or so I was told by an 
>> attorney friend who is not involved with ASF, but I should probably take it 
>> with the ASF legal to confirm. I am not sure how aware you are of it, but 
>> the ASF is putting more emphasis lately on enforcing the trademark policy. 
>> Trademarks compliance should also be part of the quarterly report.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
>> 
>>> Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ?
>>> 
>>> Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in 
>>> May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/. 
>>> they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for 
>>> consideration ?
>>> 
>>> From an Apache point of view you need to ask:
>>> 
>>> 1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? 
>>> (the answer is no)
>>> 2. Would the community like to use them ?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> 
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Claus,
>>>> 
>>>> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your 
>>>> employer for commercial purposes?
>>>> 
>>>> Hadrian
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> 
>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>>> in the logo.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>> 
>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>> 
>>>>> D: 
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>>> E: 
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>>> F: 
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the 
>>>>>> improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this 
>>>>>> thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors 
>>>>>> will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we 
>>>>>> have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or 
>>>>>> vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for 
>>>>>> the camel project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>>> A. 
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>> B. 
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>> C. 
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please 
>>>>>> specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last 
>>>>>> one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row 
>>>>>> and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 
>>>>>> and C1, in that order.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size 
>>>>>> and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the 
>>>>>> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>> Email: cib...@fusesource.com
>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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