On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com> wrote: > There's a mailing list specific for legal matters, there's no need to get > the board involved with that. > We should rather look for archives in legal-disc...@apache.org and in the > jira https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL > and if we can't find anything, raise a JIRA issue there. > My guts feeling is that is has already been discussed somewhere. >
Yeah it must have. Because basically all the existing Apache products that have Maven Archetypes I have tried, generate source code with *NO* license headers. For example from Karaf, Maven, CXF etc. You can just try using mvn archetype:generate, and chose any of the Apache Project archetypes such as for example: org.apache.cxf.archetype:cxf-jaxrs-service > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Christian Schneider < > ch...@die-schneider.net> wrote: > >> So my proposal is that I organize a statement from the board before our >> next release and we already remove the license headers. >> In the worst case I think we have to add a license file to the generated >> code and in the best case we are fine. >> >> Christian >> >> Am 04.07.2012 10:30, schrieb Christian Schneider: >> >> This is already a good tendency that generated code is unproblematic. To >>> make sure I propose we get a statement from the board then we are on the >>> safe side. >>> Perhaps this can then also be written down so other projects can simply >>> follow. >>> >>> Christian >>> >>> Am 04.07.2012 10:24, schrieb Rob Davies: >>> >>>> I think this thread is helpful - its from Eclipse - >>>> http://www.eclipsezone.com/**eclipse/forums/t116081.html<http://www.eclipsezone.com/eclipse/forums/t116081.html> >>>> >>>> On 4 Jul 2012, at 09:19, Christian Schneider wrote: >>>> >>>> My current understanding is that you can not assume you are allowed to >>>>> use code if it has no license. Is there an exception for >>>>> generated/template >>>>> code? >>>>> If yes then I am supporting this but we should make sure this works >>>>> legally. Can we get some confirmation about this from some license >>>>> specialist from apache or is this written down somehere already? >>>>> >>>>> Christian >>>>> >>>>> Am 04.07.2012 10:12, schrieb Guillaume Nodet: >>>>> >>>>>> Generated code should not be licensed or copyrighted. It's up to the >>>>>> user >>>>>> to decide which license to use. >>>>>> So +1 for removing any header from generated code. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When end users of Camel uses the Camel Maven Archetypes to create new >>>>>>> projects >>>>>>> http://camel.apache.org/camel-**maven-archetypes.html<http://camel.apache.org/camel-maven-archetypes.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then we generate a new skeleton Maven project for them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently these *generated* source files contains ASF license headers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want to discuss if we should remove these ASF headers from the >>>>>>> *generated* files. >>>>>>> Our end users works in organization that build software, and they may >>>>>>> not use any license headers, >>>>>>> or use their own license headers, or use another kind of header. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we should not include any license headers at all, and leave it >>>>>>> for the end users to decide for that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Claus Ibsen >>>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>>> FuseSource >>>>>>> Email: cib...@fusesource.com >>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com >>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews >>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christian Schneider >>>>> http://www.liquid-reality.de >>>>> >>>>> Open Source Architect >>>>> Talend Application Integration Division http://www.talend.com >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Christian Schneider >> http://www.liquid-reality.de >> >> Open Source Architect >> Talend Application Integration Division http://www.talend.com >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------ > Guillaume Nodet > ------------------------ > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > ------------------------ > FuseSource, Integration everywhere > http://fusesource.com -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- FuseSource Email: cib...@fusesource.com Web: http://fusesource.com Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews Blog: http://davsclaus.com Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
