On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Sam (Stephen Samuel) <samspad...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's a fair point about them trying to circumvent the original intent of > the zeromq authors for an LGPL product. I agree with you now you have > pointed that out. > > There is a special exception on the LGPL license for the Java driver which > I think covers this kind of case: > https://github.com/zeromq/jzmq/blob/master/COPYING.LESSER (final paragraph). > > But the Java driver is a pain as you have to compile it yourself (there is > no binary for it). >
Yeah that is too bad. IMHO it should be easy for others to integrate with your product. And if that entails distributing binaries using friendly license then so be it. I for sure would see it as a negative aspect if I had to compile everything to use and integration your product. > Akka is on maven central. > http://search.maven.org/#browse%7C1007422773 > There is no akka-zeromq 2.0.3 release http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cga%7C1%7Cakka-zeromq In fact there is no GA releases of that, only a milestone release. > Also you don't need Scala on your classpath to compile the camel zeromq > component. You will if you wanted to compile Akka of course. > The maven pom.xml of akka-zeromq have scala as compile scoped. They have not marked them as optional etc. So are you saying that you can use akka-zeromq without any Scala JARs at all? eg what are the minimum JARs I need? > Shall we put this in camel extra's and be done ? > If so, is that just a normal patch submitted to camel jira as per normal ? > We need more feedback from the other Camel and ASF members. > > > > On 25 September 2012 15:27, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Sam (Stephen Samuel) >> <samspad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I don't think the word "hack" is quite right. The Akka Zeromq driver is >> > totally legit. I imagine they wrote it for the same reason - they wanted >> to >> > keep Akka APL instead of GPL. >> > >> >> Its a hack in the sense that Akka went around the intent from ZeroMQ >> which is that their product is LGPL licensed. >> If they wanted people to integrate with ZeroMQ using other licenses >> then IMHO it would be better if ZeroMQ had dual licenses for its >> drivers. >> >> Since we cannot use a driver from the "source" eg ZeroMQ project, and >> have to defer to Akka project which is also Scala based (requiring >> Scala on the JVM) is imho going a bit far, and in the area of being a >> "hack". >> >> The other Camel components do not do this. So its a bit controversial >> if the ASF community of Camel is interested going down this road. >> >> And also the Akka releases is not published to maven central. Its not >> a blocker though. But software released to maven central is preferred. >> Its a bit of pain to have to rely on to many 3rd party maven repos. >> >> > On 25 September 2012 15:08, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> See ticket >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-5557 >> >> >> >> As this component uses a bit of a "hack" to avoid using LGPL I would >> >> like fellow riders thoughts on this contribution? >> >> >> >> There is a number of comments on this ticket, I suggest to read to get >> >> up to speed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Claus Ibsen >> >> ----------------- >> >> Red Hat, Inc. >> >> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >> >> Email: cib...@redhat.com >> >> Web: http://fusesource.com >> >> Twitter: davsclaus >> >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >> >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > -Sam >> >> >> >> -- >> Claus Ibsen >> ----------------- >> Red Hat, Inc. >> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >> Email: cib...@redhat.com >> Web: http://fusesource.com >> Twitter: davsclaus >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >> > > > > -- > -Sam -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- Red Hat, Inc. FuseSource is now part of Red Hat Email: cib...@redhat.com Web: http://fusesource.com Twitter: davsclaus Blog: http://davsclaus.com Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
