a) I think building on top of sinceVersion is good.

b) I don't have strong opinion yet where such information should go.
I don't feel native is the right word, I would tend to see this as a kind
of platform level support like
karaf/spring-boot/camel-k/quarkus-jvm/quarkus-graal/any-concurrent-of-graal.

hth ;)
Alex

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:36 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:14 AM Omar Al-Safi <o...@oalsafi.com> wrote:
> >
> > IMO, I'd mark a component as `stable` after a few Camel releases
> > that include the component, no idea how many, but this at least gives me
> > the hint that the component is stable enough for this use. That means, a
> > new component that is being added to camel code base, I'd mark it as
> > `Preview`. At least in that sense, it can make sense here.
> >
>
> Yeah but that is also what since version is for, you can see that
> today, see the since column,
> https://camel.apache.org/components/latest/
>
> But yes we could have a default rule in the build tooling so when we
> build a release, it would use preview (if no explicit set and that the
> component is new, or N-1 release old).
> Then we dont need to remember to update all these components manually over
> time.
>
>
> > Regards,
> > Omar
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:59 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Background this PR
> > > https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/3698
> > >
> > > a)
> > > I think it can benefit Camel components if we are able to define what
> > > maturity/stability level the component is (find a good name). For
> > > example we could the values that other projects uses such as Quarkus
> > > and WildFly: Stable, Preview, Experimental
> > >
> > > However the devil is in the wording. For example does Stable mean that
> > > it's stable forever. And that is a NO. A camel component may change
> > > between LTS releases, as we want to innovate fast and move on. For
> > > example a 3rd party dependency upgrade may cause some changes, or a
> > > major upgrade which we want. SB1 to SB2 etc. netty3 -> netty4. And
> > > sometimes we created a new component and other times we upgraded the
> > > existing component.
> > >
> > > b)
> > > The second information that may benefit, is whether a component would
> > > be compilable for native via graalvm. But at this moment then I think
> > > this information is best kept in camel-quarkus as this is where we
> > > know whether its fully native or jvm only.
> > >
> > > So I would keep this information in the camel quarkus catalog only.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ad a)
> > > We could then store this information about maturity level in the
> > > <properties> section of pom.xml where we already store labels,
> > > description, and whether its deprecated.
> > >
> > > <properties>
> > >   <stability>stable</stability>
> > >   ...
> > > </properties>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Claus Ibsen
> > > -----------------
> > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
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> > >
>
>
>
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