> > You missed the point ... let them do it their way when it makes no > difference
If you're suggesting we use a static markdown based generator as the "go to" method for content generation and accept PR's for "New Hotness" (do it their way), then sure, that seems a totally fair compromise. Pretty sure that's not what you're suggesting, and people Wild Westing a contribution to a project, that the project then owns when you get bored of it and move on, doesn't qualify for "makes no difference". On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Kenneth Brotman < kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > You missed the point. If someone can do a good job on something, just let > them do it their way when it makes no difference. Specifically regarding > the website, I should be able to submit HTML, CSS and JS if I want, others > should be able to do it with the static generator thing if they want. I > could have fixed the website with complete version specific pages, with > some really good text to fill in where there is none now and so on; and > done that several different ways by now. I'm donating my time too. Please > keep that in mind. > > Let me ask again, where are the standards? How can you leave the website > for the project you will be associated with looking that substandard? > Rahul Singh has been making a very important point that different types of > uses with different uses cases use the website. This is a public website; > not an internal site for coders. > > Kenneth Brotman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh McKenzie [mailto:jmcken...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:42 AM > To: dev@cassandra.apache.org > Subject: Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online > documentation > > Wow. Ok, let's try this again. > > Josh, you made my point for me. Lower the barriers to entry > > Kenneth, I disagree. The C* community is not expressing universal interest > in having a hand-crafted bespoke website, but many have expressed being > open to using markdown to create content. Former: high barrier to entry > *for the community as a whole, not just you.* Important distinction. > > If someone like me offers to knock out something that's been a problem for > > the group and can do a very professional job, next time get out of the > way. > > It's been a problem because people haven't devoted time to it, not because > they couldn't figure out markdown. The Apache Way is about consensus, not > telling people to get out of the way when they don't agree with you. > > I don't make junk Josh. > > Actions speak louder than words and thus far your tone, combativeness, and > repeated unwillingness to acknowledge what looks to be a strong general > consensus from your peers is the evidence we have to go on. > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Kenneth Brotman < > kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > > Josh, you made my point for me. Lower the barriers to entry, not throw > > extra steps I don’t need at me. If someone like me offers to knock > > out something that's been a problem for the group and can do a very > > professional job, next time get out of the way. I don't make junk Josh. > > Sorry that Apache is not interested in a site with multi-media > > support; or even sites with complete pages. Show me one quality open > > source Apache site. Wake up. Raise your bar! Engineers shouldn't > > speak in the language of mediocrity. > > > > Kenneth Brotman > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Josh McKenzie [mailto:jmcken...@apache.org] > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:27 AM > > To: dev@cassandra.apache.org > > Subject: Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online > > documentation > > > > > > > > I've been writing html a long time; since about 1990. You're asking > > > me to learn a weird little program, a static site generator just to > > > change something I can already do without using a program at all. > > > > You're one person among a community of back-end Java devs. If you want > > people to contribute to things you need to lower the barriers to > > entry, not deep-dive into some bespoke thing that may never see the > > light of day and, when completed, misses the mark on what users of > cassandra care about: > > clarity and speed. Also: bus-factor 1 is bad. > > > > Another weird thing: Wouldn't we want a website that is dynamic and > > > multi-media rich? > > > > Personally? No. We're talking function here, not form. As an engineer, > > I don't want to wade through someone else's idea of what "dynamic and > > multi-media rich" means when I'm trying to find an answer to something > > or learn something so I can get on with my job. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:41 AM, Kenneth Brotman > > > <kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > I don't know what we are doing for the website technologies right > > > > now > > > because like everything else what we do is not documented anywhere. > > > Where are the servers: the cloud? What server software are we > > > running? How is the html, etc. generated and published? How is > > > search > > done for the website? > > > > > > http://cassandra.apache.org/doc/latest/development/documentation.htm > > > l The resulting static HTML from Sphinx is hosted on ASF > > > infrastructure. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
