Probably worth linking to the apache CoC in our wiki if we haven't already.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 2:31 PM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > Dinesh - I expect to see a [DISCUSS] thread from you about our CoC > shortly. > > :) > > > > I am satisfied with Benedict's clarification. ASF CoC and processes > outlined in there are fine. > > Dinesh > > > > > ~Josh > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 4:17 AM Aaron Morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com> > > wrote: > > > >> +1 > >> > >> ----------------- > >> Aaron Morton > >> New Zealand > >> @aaronmorton > >> > >> CEO > >> Apache Cassandra Consulting > >> http://www.thelastpickle.com > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 19:46, Benedict Elliott Smith < > bened...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> The purpose of this document is to define only how the project makes > >>> decisions, and it lists "tenets" of conduct only as a preamble for > >>> interpreting the rules on decision-making. The authors' intent was to > >> lean > >>> on this to minimise the rigidity and prescriptiveness in the > formulation > >> of > >>> the rules (so that we could e.g. use "reasonable" repeatedly, instead > of > >>> specifying precise expectations), in part because this is our first > >> attempt > >>> to codify such rules, and in part because rigidity can cause > unnecessary > >>> friction to a project that mostly runs smoothly. > >>> > >>> The document provides an avenue for resolving disputes in > decision-making > >>> when these assumptions on behaviour breakdown. However its scope > >> definitely > >>> isn't, at least in my opinion, addressing misbehaviour by individuals > >> (i.e. > >>> one of the serious breaches listed in part 5 of the Apache CoC), which > it > >>> seems to me you are addressing here? > >>> > >>> Since we reference the ASF CoC, and the ASF provides its own guide for > >>> handling CoC complaints (including within projects), that applies to > that > >>> very CoC (and which you referenced), it's unclear to me what you're > >> looking > >>> for. Are you looking for a more project-specific CoC with different > >>> guidelines for reporting? This is something you would be welcome to > >>> undertake, and seek consensus for. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 25/06/2020, 02:38, "Dinesh Joshi" <djo...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:43 PM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> 1. How/Who/Where are we planning to deal with Code of Conduct > >>> violations? I assume this should be private@ but the document does not > >>> call it out as such. We should call it out explicitly as part of the > PMC > >>> responsibilities. We should also clarify how and where are CoC > violations > >>> against PMC members reported and handled? Should they go to ASF? > >>>> > >>>> I think if we assume good intent, this will be a non-issue. People > >>>> may make mistakes, but I try to have faith they will realize them > >> and > >>>> act accordingly when told so without any need to escalate. > >>> > >>> We need to spell out in the document how and where the CoC > violations > >>> are reported irrespective of the role of the person in the community. > >> This > >>> is a critical point to address. ASF spells this out very clearly[1]. We > >>> should have a similar statement in the Project Governance document, > >>> otherwise it feels incomplete to me. > >>> > >>> Dinesh > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > >> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html#reporting-guidelines > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
